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Started by cintronr, June 21, 2015, 10:20:50 PM

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cintronr

June 21, 2015, 10:20:50 PM
Hello everyone,

As the title states, what is the best oil change interval, how often should you change the oil? every 2000miles? 3000?

Ddan

#1
June 22, 2015, 03:46:52 AM
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EEL

#2
June 22, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
Summary:

Use a synthetic like mobil mx4t, use 10-40 for our bikes for proper heat dissipation, change every 3000 miles if you're a picky person or for peace of mind.

ducpainter

#3
June 22, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Quote from: EEL on June 22, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
Summary:

Use a synthetic like mobil mx4t, use 10-40 for our bikes for proper heat dissipation, change every 3000 miles if you're a picky person or for peace of mind.


I'll continue to use 20-50 Klotz for my roller bearing headed M900...

thank you very much. ;D
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He Man

#4
June 23, 2015, 11:25:04 AM
I use Shell Diesel T6 in my Ducati....it worked great in my KX250F....DR650.....WR450F.....

hell at this point anythin slippery is looking like a pretty good candidate :P

jduke

#5
June 24, 2015, 10:17:52 AM
I've never seen proof that cheap oil caused an engine failure.

Monsterlover

#6
July 07, 2015, 04:12:38 AM
Quote from: jduke on June 24, 2015, 10:17:52 AM
I've never seen proof that cheap oil caused an engine failure.

Has it ever been proven car oil caused engine failure or damage?
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Howie

#7
July 07, 2015, 06:56:54 AM
Besides the wet clutch problems associated with energy conserving (extra slippery) oils after SG classification the phosphorous and zinc needed for high pressure application like gearboxes  have been removed.  Diesel oils still have them so those oils are fine.

ducpainter

#8
July 07, 2015, 07:31:34 AM
Quote from: howie on July 07, 2015, 06:56:54 AM
Besides the wet clutch problems associated with energy conserving (extra slippery) oils after SG classification the phosphorous and zinc needed for high pressure application like gearboxes  have been removed.  Diesel oils still have them so those oils are fine.
If reports are correct, this may no longer be the case...

http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/garage/467142-good-stuff-shell-rotella-t-oil-gone.html

The link in the post is dead so I can't read for myself.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Howie

#9
July 07, 2015, 11:14:32 AM
Link is alive now.  Hopefully they did what the Europeans did and found alternative additives.

Monsterlover

#10
July 08, 2015, 02:59:35 AM
Here's why I ask

I've used Mobil 1 synthetic car oil in every bike I've owned and never had any issues with wear or clutch slip.

It started with my old m900 which had a dry clutch. I figured since it was dry it was exempt from the slippage problem.

Then I got my first 675 which is a wet clutch bike. 13,000 miles trouble free.

Then I got my KTM 950 smr. 20,000 miles trouble free. Still on the original clutch. A guy I know just sold his 950smr with 70,000 miles on it and he also was trouble free using the same oil. 

I guess I feel like I've got enough first hand evidence to be OK with the Mobil 1.

:-\
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oldndumb

#11
July 08, 2015, 09:31:29 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 07, 2015, 07:31:34 AM
If reports are correct, this may no longer be the case...

http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/garage/467142-good-stuff-shell-rotella-t-oil-gone.html

The link in the post is dead so I can't read for myself.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I read one of the threads in that link, it states that the zinc anti wear additives were part of the CI-4 specification and that, since the zinc was removed, CI-4 is no longer available. I use Rotella T6 (blue jug) and the label definitely lists CI-4 as one of several specifications. If it does it with zinc or something else, I think the significance is that it meets the specification.

Forgive me Father for weakening and posting to an oil thread. I realize the error of my ways and will now do penance.   :'(

Howie

#12
July 08, 2015, 12:54:45 PM
Quote from: oldndumb on July 08, 2015, 09:31:29 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I read one of the threads in that link, it states that the zinc anti wear additives were part of the CI-4 specification and that, since the zinc was removed, CI-4 is no longer available. I use Rotella T6 (blue jug) and the label definitely lists CI-4 as one of several specifications. If it does it with zinc or something else, I think the significance is that it meets the specification.

Forgive me Father for weakening and posting to an oil thread. I realize the error of my ways and will now do penance.   :'(

Wish I could.  Just dunno.  They may be using other additives like in Europe or you might have an old jug.

oldndumb

#13
July 08, 2015, 01:19:16 PM
Fresh jug off the WallyWorld shelf.

If the zinc is indeed forbidden, they obviously are using a substitute which meets the spec(s). BTW, it is also JASO MA.

ducpainter

#14
July 08, 2015, 01:56:00 PM
My point was if they removed the zinc and phosphorus, or the majority of it, and even if they replaced it with something else for diesel engine use we have no idea if those compounds meet the EP requirements of a Duc tranny.

Quote from: oldndumb on July 08, 2015, 09:31:29 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I read one of the threads in that link, it states that the zinc anti wear additives were part of the CI-4 specification and that, since the zinc was removed, CI-4 is no longer available. I use Rotella T6 (blue jug) and the label definitely lists CI-4 as one of several specifications. If it does it with zinc or something else, I think the significance is that it meets the specification.


Quote from: oldndumb on July 08, 2015, 09:31:29 AM
Forgive me Father for weakening and posting to an oil thread. I realize the error of my ways and will now do penance.   :'(

Yeah...definitely treading over my head. :P
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


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