Crowdsourcing: Help with Engine Number vs. Model Year and Size Table

Started by Speeddog, February 21, 2014, 07:40:39 PM

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Speeddog

I'm trying to come up with a table to determine engine size and model year from just the engine number.

I've searched online, and not found any help.

So if you can, check the first four digits of your engine number, and report it here along with year and engine size.

Most helpful if you're the original owner, as pre-owned bikes can have had undisclosed engine swaps....
But still report it if you're not, as engine swaps aren't real common.

For example, the first 4 digits RC3X mean it's a '99 M750.

TIA!  [beer]
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ROUGH DRAFT TABLE

Years, 4th digit

1991 = m
1992 = N
1993 = q
1994 = r
1995 = s
1996 = t
1997 = v
1998 = W
1999 = X
2000 = Y

     2001 = 1
     2002 = 2
     2003 =
     2004 =
     2005 = 5
     2006 = 6
     2007 =
     2008 =
     2009 = 9
     2010 = A

          2011 =
          2012 =
          2013 = D
          2014 =  
          2015 =
          2016 = G
          2017 =

***** UPPERCASE are verified, lowercase are inferred, some letters may be skipped *****


First 3 digits, Model:

RA2 = Injected M620

RAD = Injected M695, M696

RC3 = Carbie M750
RA3 = Injected M750
H74 = Injected 748R SBK
SB3 = Injected 748 SBK
UB3 = Injected 749 SBK

RAA = Injected M800
LAA = Injected 800SS

    XBG = Injected 848SBK
    1BM = Injected 848SF
    HB6 = Injected 851SBK

    RC4 = Carbie M900
    RA4 = Injected M900
    LC4 = Carbie 900SS
    PC4 = Carbie E900
    RB8 = Injected S4 (916)
     SB8 = Injected 916 SBK

    SB5 = Injected 996 SBK
    RB5 = Injected 999 S4Rs
    RAB = Injected M1000
    WAB = Injected SC1000

         XBE = Injected 1098SBK

         YAC = Injected Multi 1100

         RBS = Injected M1200
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ChrisK

1998 M900
2007 CBR600RR Track Bike
1982 Virago 920 Cafe/Fighter Project
1980 Lambretta Moped
Supra Boats enthusiast

"There is no minimum."  - some guy.

Speeddog

Quote from: ChrisK on February 21, 2014, 11:23:07 PM
Where's the number stamped at?

On the left side of the crankcase, below the alternator cover.

It'll be something like RC3X014529.

First 4 digits are all that's relevant to model and year.
Last 6 digits are sequential to identify a particular engine, and not useful.

Service manuals have info that's helpful if it's a non-USA model, but insufficient detail for USA models.
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Reseda, CA

(951) 640-8908


~~~ "We've rearranged the deck chairs, refilled the champagne glasses, and the band sounds great. This is fine." - Alberto Puig ~~~

koko64

2015 Scrambler 800

Speeddog

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(951) 640-8908


~~~ "We've rearranged the deck chairs, refilled the champagne glasses, and the band sounds great. This is fine." - Alberto Puig ~~~

ducpainter

I'll dig mine out of the rubble in the barn tomorrow.

96 M 900 and an '01 996.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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thorn14

2002 620 RA22
2003 800ss LAA5 (Bought the engine which was sold as a 2003 but the year may be wrong.)
M620 turned M800 but then back to M620 after the M800 died at 110k, and now to Multi 1000.

Speeddog

Eeeeexcellent, thank you both.  :)

Thorn14, the '5' of the LAA5 denotes a 2005 engine, from what I've found.
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beethoven

97_M900                                                     07_Triumph_Sprint

suzyj



2007 Monster 695 with a few mods.
2013 Piaggio Typhoon 50 2 stroke speed demon.

Scoober1103

09 M1100 + stuff.
07 GSXR750 stock as a......
15 KTM Freeride 250r for hurting myself!

Quote from: koko64 on April 02, 2014, 02:52:23 AM
Don't buy cheap shit, it can cut your balls off.

thorn14

Was confused why my numbers seemed different to others, and I was researching, and I'm seeing that the country the bike is imported to matters, as the numbers are different for US vs other countries. The ZDM standing for only appears on my US frame, my engine begins at model of bike (monster). I figure I may as well share this info from two sources.

http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index.cfm?fa=contentGeneric.zvfiihryhlqbrzht&pageId=2255673
One I found which I hadn't seen before... showing the differences between numbers.

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/80-hall-wisdom/27112-ducati-vins-decoded.html
The first link in google which I assume you've seen Speeddog.
M620 turned M800 but then back to M620 after the M800 died at 110k, and now to Multi 1000.

brad black

nick is asking for usa style engine numbers, which are different to the euro ones.

zdmxxxx does not apply to the usa.
Brad The Bike Boy

http://www.bikeboy.org

Ddan

2000 Monster 900Sie, a few changes
1992 900 SS, currently a pile of parts.  Now running
                    flogged successfully  NHMS  12 customized.  Twice.   T3 too.   Now retired.

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ducpainter

1996 M900 RC4T

2000 or 2001...not sure and can't get to the vin right now...996 Bi Posto SB5Y
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."