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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2020, 07:42:17 AM »

Galuzzi designed the Monster

… ya miss-spelt the designers name  Grin

… bike designed by Miguel Angel Galluzzi …

ok; always got to be on your toes with the dmf-ers,  I stand corrected; got the wrong guy; I was close  Tongue
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« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2020, 03:03:25 PM »

Outsider

The name of the guys aren’t that important, but the story behind, … is.

Yes, nothing is stranger than the truth.
Monster was an outsider, black sheep, ugly ducklin, to Ducati.


Fun fact #1


It WASN’T Ducati’s idea to create the naked bike.
That was Galluzzi’s idea, and he has NEVER been hired, or part of Ducati.
He was simply hired by Cagiva Head Quarter, and that’s where his position was, in the time of Ducati Monster development.

Fun fact#2
SOME Ducati enthusiasts didn’t like this Frankenstein style creation.
Ever heard “ Ducati is Ferrari’s equivalent in two-wheel world”?
I personally don’t agree on that, but there are quite a bit of people who think / feel that way.
Those were the ones who reacted negatively to Monster (in the early 1990s.)
But, this ugly ducklin actually saved the company from the huge debts.

Fun fact#3

Galluzzi had to keep himself (physically) far away from Bologna.
Yes, there were “too much noise” coming from the Ducati factory.
He needed to isolate himself from Ducati factory guys.

Fun fact #4

Monster WASN’T created for any serious purpose.
It’s not going to win on the race track.
(Buy Superbike, if that’s what you want)
It’s not going to be a good serious long distance tourer.
(Buy Beemer or Guzzi, or Gold Wind, then.)
The reason it (M900) got 900SS engine was, simply because they were available at the reasonable cost.
(888 frame was okay to use, but the water cooled 4-vavle engine was just  too expensive for this project.)
The components were mostly chosen based on the cost and availability, NOT the performance.
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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2020, 06:18:20 PM »

I met the guy.  Nice fellow.  He even knew who I was.  He brought Monster #000000 to this motorcycle show.  Ducati gifted it to him as a thank you.  It wore the original tires.  It was very very special...  Or, is special as I’m sure he still has it.
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2020, 01:26:55 AM »

Ducati Monster Fun Fact Special
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“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”

― Oscar Wilde




Look closely, around the engine, frame's rear engine mount area, and logo on the fuel tank !

This is something Cagiva could have done.
(Remember Cagiva Mito 125?



If they had produced 125cc version of Monster, with the fuel tank  showing same masculine shape as the original, that would have been very cool.)

Anyhow, look at this ...


Before 0:59, that's stock exhaust system.
1:00 - 1:46, Moriwaki ZERO exhaust, no baffle,
Then, same exhaust with baffle.
Watch the video till the end,  he shows very interesting home made system.

NOW, close your eyes, just listen to the exhaust note. (Especially Moriwaki with baffle part)
THEN, listen to this exhaust note. (Preferably with the headphone, NOT the one for listening music, but the headphone for video / studio monitoring. Music listening headphones enhance certain frequencies, so they won't let you hear the true sound.)





90 degree V-twins produce the same tone, regardless the brand of the bike, engine displacement.
what makes that sound is firing sequence.

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« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2020, 07:59:52 AM »

Ducati Monster Fun Fact Special

“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.”
― Oscar Wilde

Look closely, around the engine, frame's rear engine mount area,  and logo on the fuel tank

…. Before 0:59, that's stock exhaust system.
1:00 - 1:46, Moriwaki ZERO exhaust, no baffle,
Then, same exhaust with baffle.
Watch the video till the end,  he shows very interesting home made system.

NOW, close your eyes, just listen to the exhaust note. (Especially Moriwaki with baffle part)
THEN, listen to this exhaust note. (Preferably with the headphone, NOT the one for listening music, but the headphone for video / studio monitoring. Music listening headphones enhance certain frequencies, so they won't let you hear the true sound.)

90 degree V-twins produce the same tone, regardless the brand of the bike, engine displacement.
what makes that sound is firing sequence.


… were talking about sound, the exhaust note ….

ok done much detailed research and explanation here beyond what most of us mortal earthlings would ever know or what Galluzi ever realised when he was tasked with designing a new moto that evolved into and became "Il Monstrosity"; a very interesting evolution of design, and success.


I met the guy.  Nice fellow.  He even knew who I was.  He brought Monster #000000 to this motorcycle show.  Ducati gifted it to him as a thank you.  It wore the original tires.  It was very very special...  Or, is special as I’m sure he still has it.

Outsider

The name of the guys aren’t that important, but the story behind, … is.

Yes, nothing is stranger than the truth.
Monster was an outsider, black sheep, ugly ducklin, to Ducati.


Fun fact #1


It WASN’T Ducati’s idea to create the naked bike.
That was Galluzzi’s idea, and he has NEVER been hired, or part of Ducati.
He was simply hired by Cagiva Head Quarter, and that’s where his position was, in the time of Ducati Monster development.

Fun fact#2
SOME Ducati enthusiasts didn’t like this Frankenstein style creation.
Ever heard “ Ducati is Ferrari’s equivalent in two-wheel world”?
I personally don’t agree on that, but there are quite a bit of people who think / feel that way.
Those were the ones who reacted negatively to Monster (in the early 1990s.)
But, this ugly ducklin actually saved the company from the huge debts.

Fun fact#3

Galluzzi had to keep himself (physically) far away from Bologna.
Yes, there were “too much noise” coming from the Ducati factory.
He needed to isolate himself from Ducati factory guys.

Fun fact #4

Monster WASN’T created for any serious purpose.
It’s not going to win on the race track.
(Buy Superbike, if that’s what you want)
It’s not going to be a good serious long distance tourer.
(Buy Beemer or Guzzi, or Gold Wind, then.)
The reason it (M900) got 900SS engine was, simply because they were available at the reasonable cost.
(888 frame was okay to use, but the water cooled 4-vavle engine was just  too expensive for this project.)
The components were mostly chosen based on the cost and availability, NOT the performance.


more amazing factoids and stuff; the appeal of the monster is the the Ducati brand name; Italian shick euro styling; some performance, along with a naked bike trend that is taking off in Europe at the time with an unique L twin and desmo valve setup ...

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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2021, 02:24:19 PM »

This helps me understand the bike more. Often the best creations are improvised. I've had good luck making omelettes that way.

S21FOLGORE you are obsessed.

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