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« on: July 12, 2019, 05:18:15 AM »

I bought a new chain and sprocket set for the Monster, the chain came with a rivet-type master link... and I don't have a rivet tool.  I've always used clip links, even on my CBR1000, and never had problems... is there any issue using a clip link on the Ducati with a SSS?

Rivet tool: $75

Clip link: $5

...so you see the difference, in a tool I would likely only use twice or thrice...

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 06:24:58 AM »

I used clip links without incident for decades, but I treated the link with respect, as that's all there was so one had to make them work.....

As long as you don't brutalize the clip on install, it's installed the correct direction, and you don't fuxxor it afterward while cleaning or the like, they're fine.
In my experience, not everyone can do that.

The clip links I've used in the last 20 years require the side plate to be pressed on, the same as the rivet links.
I'm sure that the pin and sideplate dimensions are the same, other than the end of the pin that is either grooved for a clip or hollow-tipped to be swaged out.
About every 2nd year I see a clip-linked chain that shows the press fit is adequate to do the job, as it comes in my shop without a clip.....

The biggest issue I've seen with any master links is inadequate/improper lube at assembly.
I've seen chains that are otherwise fine, but the pins on the master link are worn halfway through.
If the clip didn't come with a little packet of grease, then you have to find one.
Do your best to get as much of that grease inside as possible.
Don't press the sideplate on too far, that'll kill the O-rings.
You can flare the ends of the pins on a rivet link with a hammer and punch.
It's a bit awkward with a SSS as you've got to have a solid support from the ground to react the hammering.
A good caliper is very helpful to confirm proper sideplate position and adequate pin flare.

I only install clip links if the customer specifically requests it, and they always get a lecture on what their responsibilities are.

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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 11:26:49 AM »

Use a block of steel on the pins of the link to back it up while hammering. Works great.

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2019, 06:11:00 PM »

The ones I've done previously, even on my 1000, I've packed the links full of grease.  Granted, I've never really looked at one when I pulled it after it's service life... that's interesting.  I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something with the SSS that would catch, or some close tolerance somewhere.  I might give the rivet a try... I have a 3# sledge I can use as a backer, and a rivet punch.  Worth a try, I suppose...
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2019, 06:12:56 PM »

The ones I've done previously, even on my 1000, I've packed the links full of grease.  Granted, I've never really looked at one when I pulled it after it's service life... that's interesting.  I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something with the SSS that would catch, or some close tolerance somewhere.  I might give the rivet a try... I have a 3# sledge I can use as a backer, and a rivet punch.  Worth a try, I suppose...
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2019, 10:22:42 PM »

I have a rivet tool at the house, you are welcome to drop by and pick it up when you are in the neighborhood, it is one of the Motion Pro ones.

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2019, 04:58:52 AM »

Thank you, Mark!  I will take you up on that...

I've got a short week this week... I'm headed back out to NV to drive my wife (and the XR650) back home, I'll shoot you a text when I get back next week!

I was looking at it last night... I think I can do it without the tool, but the idea of the chain coming apart has me repeating one of my axioms:  'The right tool for the right job.'  A popped chain would certainly render the Monster to parts on eBay... Sad
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