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Mhanis
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Re: No start after battery replacement
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September 10, 2018, 05:53:42 PM »
10-4 Speed. And I tried to get on here and correct my mV guess, it dawned on me that it must be 1/100th, not 1/10th, but you were too fast for me!
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Re: No start after battery replacement
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September 11, 2018, 11:55:06 AM »
Since you got nothing when you hooked power directly to the starter, I thought you mentioned you were going to pull it. Have you pulled it and tested it with direct power off the bike yet?
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Pulling the started off is the next step. I wanted to make sure everyone here was satisfied that I had tested it seven ways to Sunday before I pulled it apart.
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September 11, 2018, 02:41:11 PM »
I have the oil draining but I have a couple of questions regarding the removal of the crankcase cover. I have the workshop manual but it isn't really clear to me:
1. The wires coming out of the stator, will I disconnect those from the crankcase cover itself or should I disconnect the other end and leave the wires attached to the crankcase cover?
2. Will I need the special tool (88713.1749) that is supposed to attach to the vacant spot left by the removal of the center cap or can I manipulate the cover off without it?
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Re: No start after battery replacement
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September 11, 2018, 02:46:38 PM »
The wires can stay with the cover. If you disconnect anything do it at the connector end.
You need the puller.
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Re: No start after battery replacement
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September 11, 2018, 08:53:36 PM »
A generic cheap steering wheel puller like this
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Powerbuilt-Heavy-Duty-Steering-Wheel-Puller-Kit-648645/203120744?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CB%7CBase%7CD25T%7C25-31_GARAGE%2FAUTOMOTIVE%7CNA%7CPLA%7c71700000034362730%7c58700003947733505%7c92700031998221531&msclkid=13d701e77913150db9d25a7fe5260708&gclid=CIHus6zWtN0CFZOWswodfiILSQ&gclsrc=ds&dclid=CLf2063WtN0CFQhODAodrkEDiw
will work. You might need to buy proper screws.
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Re: No start after battery replacement
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September 12, 2018, 05:15:38 AM »
Thanks for the link Howie but I have one on the way from Monsterparts.
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Didn't know Jeff sold starters. I'm sure whatever he sells is quality.
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Re: No start after battery replacement
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September 13, 2018, 10:54:33 AM »
Quote from: howie on September 12, 2018, 05:24:40 AM
Didn't know Jeff sold starters. I'm sure whatever he sells is quality.
You mis-understood; I got the puller from Jeff...……
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Quote from: Mhanis on September 13, 2018, 10:54:33 AM
You mis-understood; I got the puller from Jeff...……
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Re: M1100 Starter Replacement
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September 23, 2018, 10:05:50 AM »
Well boys, it is a done deal; after many delays, procrastinations, other household duties and a vacation, my starter is removed from the bike.
Just a quick note, I changed the title of this thread to more directly reflect what I am doing.
So my question now is; What is my next step? Do I bother bench testing it or do I contact the folks that Howie left links to and send it in to get rebuilt? Is there another option.
To be honest I am not convinced that I would have tackled this if I had known what I was in store for. I have a certain level of self satisfaction that I have gotten this far but I have serious concerns about getting everything put back together and not having any left over parts (a la Greg Brady).
Oh, another thing; I was rather expecting to see a gasket and there isn't one, but there appears to have been some liquid gasket material that was applied to at least parts of the crankcase cover, what is the story there?
I am going to watch the MotoGP race and take a break.
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Re: M1100 Starter Replacement
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September 23, 2018, 10:21:07 AM »
Ducati doesn't use a cover gasket, they use a sealer...not sure about the starter.
If you choose to use a gasket, I think ca-cycleworks sells one, you'll need to check the gap on the sensor that screws to the cover.
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Re: M1100 Starter Replacement
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September 23, 2018, 11:22:48 AM »
Go with the sealer. I suggest Threebond Liquid Gasket 1184, used by most OEMs, usually replacing Three with Yama or whatever. Forgot what Ducati calls it. Hard to find? Any quality automotive silicone sealer will be fine.
Yes, bench test the starter.
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Re: M1100 Starter Replacement
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September 24, 2018, 10:06:04 AM »
My brushes are shot; confirmed by an actual mechanic.
I am off to see if I can find a "re-build" kit, right?
*Edit* I called Ricks and they do not sell re-build kits; but if I send mine in they'll repair it and send it back to me. I hate to be the dumb-ass that is too lazy to Google their own shit, but I AM a dumb-ass when it comes to this stuff; is there a place that might/does sell a rebuild kit?
As an aside, I am not happy that my starter quit working, but I am relieved that now I know that it was the problem. I had nightmares last night of the mechanic telling me "There is nothing wrong with this starter"!!!
Mark
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Re: M1100 Starter Replacement
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September 24, 2018, 11:02:27 AM »
https://www.dbelectrical.com/products/starter-for-1000-1100-1198-1200-ducati-monster-motorcycle-2008-2011.html
Too good to be true or go for it?
Rick's quoted me $250ish to repair mine and send it back to me. With that in mind the above link sounds too good to be true.
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