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« on: January 14, 2018, 05:34:39 PM »

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I dropped the bike while taking it out of the garage. There is a manhole cover just outside my drive way and it was in the turning path, I was leaning and accelerating while on the manhole cover and by the time I realized I was already on the ground. BTW, the temperature was around 25 F. So, is the traction control good on this bike or was it because of the tire being hard out of garage due to weather?.


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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 05:40:37 PM »

I think you were operating outside the parameters of the electronics.

There becomes a time when the brain and the right wrist need to be responsible.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2018, 05:47:28 PM »

I think you were operating outside the parameters of the electronics.

There becomes a time when the brain and the right wrist need to be responsible.
Yeah, I know that was a stupid move but seriously the bike was in Urban mode and as I just started from my drive way I might be turning at 10-15mph☹️

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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 05:49:32 PM »

Probably speed...not designed for the slow bits...it's percentage based...do if your doing 5mph a faster spinning rear will always slide in sport mode
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2018, 09:05:27 PM »

That 25F part.... tires aren't much good that cold.

And that manhole cover could have had ice on it, yes?
That whole bridges ice over first thing.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 04:09:33 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 07:40:54 AM »

DTC won't stop you from sliding sideways if it's slippery enough. Also, isn't there a limit to when (how slow) the DTC works?
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 09:13:09 AM »

That 25F part.... tires aren't much good that cold.

And that manhole cover could have had ice on it, yes?
That whole bridges ice over first thing.
I pretty much agree with Nick.

Cold tire, cold/wet/perhaps icy steel, turning...and you expect TC to save that? Not likely.

Next time don't run over the steel cover. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2018, 10:40:00 AM »

Sorry to hear you crashed man.

My daughter's Mitsubishi's traction control does not kick in until speeds of 20-30 kmph, but the GLW's Toyota's traction control kicks in at walking pace. The Mitsubishi owner's manual points this out, so it would be interesting to see what your owner's manual describes as the TC's parameters of operation.
What was the setting within Urban Mode? Default or manually adjusted? I would talk to your dealer to learn more and gain an understanding of how to get the best out of the system. Worth having it checked to ensure the TC is operating correctly. While you certainly conducted a severe test of the "Safety Pack", in your defence, you had confidence in it. I'm not so trusting.
I would want the Urban setting to be sensitive and working at low speeds because lets face it, a manhole cover is pretty bloody urban!
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2018, 11:05:37 AM »

I looked in the owners manual, and I couldn't find any parameters listed.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2018, 12:37:46 PM »

That 25F part.... tires aren't much good that cold.

And that manhole cover could have had ice on it, yes?
That whole bridges ice over first thing.
There was no ice on the cover though.

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2018, 12:40:17 PM »

There was no ice on the cover though.

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At 25 degrees a moto tire won't have traction on a wet steel surface,

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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2018, 12:50:14 PM »

Condensation can be just as slick on a manhole cover...just a cruddy situation
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2018, 01:00:28 PM »

Sorry to hear you crashed man.

My daughter's Mitsubishi's traction control does not kick in until speeds of 20-30 kmph, but the GLW's Toyota's traction control kicks in at walking pace. The Mitsubishi owner's manual points this out, so it would be interesting to see what your owner's manual describes as the TC's parameters of operation.
What was the setting within Urban Mode? Default or manually adjusted? I would talk to your dealer to learn more and gain an understanding of how to get the best out of the system. Worth having it checked to ensure the TC is operating correctly. While you certainly conducted a severe test of the "Safety Pack", in your defence, you had confidence in it. I'm not so trusting.
I would want the Urban setting to be sensitive and working at low speeds because lets face it, a manhole cover is pretty bloody urban!
I DTC settings were at default.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2018, 01:02:59 PM »

At 25 degrees a moto tire won't have traction on a wet steel surface,

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