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« on: March 25, 2017, 05:51:15 AM »

Whats your fav front end swap and why
Going in a different direction on my bike, sold front end and front wheel. sooo many options on ebay, just not sure which i can do. alot of pinigale front ends
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2017, 07:50:23 AM »

Uh..what year monster?
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2017, 12:00:02 PM »

I've looked into pangale front ends, and I would advise against it. The front end appears to be a lot stiffer than other bikes due to the larger diameters found on the fork body for the obvious reason that there is no frame.

1098 forks are the easiest ducati replacement to fit, but the GSXR line up goes right in.

Both will require a different bar setup due to clearance issues. Most swap to clip ons.

If you go the GSXR route that fit the brembo brakes (not the same bolt spacing as the ducati brembos) then you are also swaping to showa's Big Piston Fork setup over the traditional open cartridges.

Ive got a showa fully adjustable fork setup that has a race tech valve kit in it and im looking to off it go with new forks, but im deciding between the M1100 Monster forks with a new cartridge or Showa BPF from GSXR. I don't feel the need to go with 1098 forks because they are more hassle then they are worth at the end of the day.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2017, 01:50:04 PM »

I have also been moved to the gsxr, R6's also line up easy too, pre 09. the my understanding both need to be re sprung due to coming from heavier bike,(in the front)
Narrowed down to fully adjustable 748, will look at the 1098, thanks for that.
Not concerned with the bar issue.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2017, 01:51:39 PM »

Uh..what year monster?

Any, just seeing what others have done
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 04:07:18 AM »

748 forks will likely need to be re-sprung as well to work on a Monster.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2017, 06:42:31 AM »

 
748 forks will likely need to be re-sprung as well to work on a Monster.

thanks, so i need to figure rebuild no matter the forkset.  waytogo
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 07:10:36 AM »


thanks, so i need to figure rebuild no matter the forkset.  waytogo
The weight distribution is very different between the platforms.

All the SBK style bikes, pretty much regardless of brand, run much heavier front springs.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2017, 11:27:36 AM »

gonna have to weigh my bike at some point, also changed weight distribution
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2017, 11:45:21 AM »

You'd have to go pretty far, and run full clip ons to mimic a super bike
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2017, 09:39:45 PM »

I have also been moved to the gsxr, R6's also line up easy too, pre 09. the my understanding both need to be re sprung due to coming from heavier bike,(in the front)
Narrowed down to fully adjustable 748, will look at the 1098, thanks for that.
Not concerned with the bar issue.


why not go with radial calipers on the later series?

If you like axial mounted calipers, then ive got a set from n S2R1000 that im trying to get rid of.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2017, 04:34:27 AM »

why not go with radial calipers on the later series?

If you like axial mounted calipers, then ive got a set from n S2R1000 that im trying to get rid of.
Not a matter of brakes, more a matter of performance of the fork. at this point i can see any host will do, I will just rebuild to what i need for me and the bike. As far as what fits, its a custom so I can work with anything.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2017, 08:19:07 AM »

Depending on the bike you are pulling from and the monster you are swapping to, it can be a lot easier to either run an Andreani or Ohlins cartridge.  This avoids complications with caliper/brake disk/wheel/fender/triples and is as good or better than stock forks from your average inline 4.

If you are looking for an aesthetic change, the cartridges will necessitate most of a breakdown anyway, so sending tubes out to anodize isn't particularly difficult or expensive.

Plus you arent at the mercy of a previous owners honesty and maintenance diligence for your new forks - no slightly bent forks or 10 year old fork oil.


If you do go new forks, the bike you are swapping to is extremely relevant to determining the best/easiest forks to swap to.  When I did the research for my S2R i had it narrowed down to s2r1k, St4S, 999, GSXR and 1098.  each one had its unique bit that would need a workaround the price difference across all was about 100$.  in the end I went with a cartridge kit that gave me a superior setup to any of them.
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2017, 08:43:00 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2017, 05:46:39 AM »

Has anyone used the Andreani  kits? They are about the same price as a spring and revalve from racetech, but obviously less technical to install.

When you buy them do they come valved to your preferences?
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