what is your plastic tank experience after all this time?

[kopfjäger]

This sounds worrisome, among all the gas stations out there who sells non-ethanol fuel? 

http://pure-gas.org/

[TWDucfan]

http://pure-gas.org/

Checked the one nearby but have to buy certain volume. Storing that much gasoline in garage is 

[ducpainter]

This sounds worrisome, among all the gas stations out there who sells non-ethanol fuel? 

http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov

Click on your state.

[danaid]

Checked the one nearby but have to buy certain volume. Storing that much gasoline in garage is 

 I do not even have the option of having one nearby.  . I use a 76 station near me that is frequented by high end cars that use the 91 octane mostly. I assume that the 91 octane is fresh and primed to the blender hoses.

[ducatiz]

Are there any concerns that this coating will not take since I have now used the tank for years with ethanol gas?

No.  You have to prep the tank thoroughly.  I do this by rinsing it with MarineClean (water based petroleum solvent) and then flushing it with xylene, and then letting it sit for a while to dry completely.

The marineclean will get out everything, even the smell.  I've found that the ethanol gas only penetrates a very small amount. I did quite a bit of testing with cut-up tanks.  Soaking the material in 10% ethanol pump gas in a sealed, zero-humidity container showed a near unmeasurable difference. Same situation with 50% humidity showed a 4-6% dimensional increase.  Long and short is that water is your problem which is solved by drying the tank.

Flushing the tank removes the residual fuel very well, and letting the tank sit and dry removes the water residue.

I also started rasping the interior in key spots including using a 1.5 mm drill bit to make divots in the interior surface.

The adhesive coating enters the divot holes and creates an anchor for the coating.

Done correctly, the coating is pretty near indestructible.  Just don't use 100% ethanol to test it like the factory did.

[TWDucfan]

I do not even have the option of having one nearby.  . I use a 76 station near me that is frequented by high end cars that use the 91 octane mostly. I assume that the 91 octane is fresh and primed to the blender hoses.

Which brand (US, California) of gas at the pump is ethanol free??  

[ducpainter]

Which brand (US, California) of gas at the pump is ethanol free??  

Look it up...

http://pure-gas.org/

[roggie]

No.  You have to prep the tank thoroughly.  I do this by rinsing it with MarineClean (water based petroleum solvent) and then flushing it with xylene, and then letting it sit for a while to dry completely.

The marineclean will get out everything, even the smell.  I've found that the ethanol gas only penetrates a very small amount. I did quite a bit of testing with cut-up tanks.  Soaking the material in 10% ethanol pump gas in a sealed, zero-humidity container showed a near unmeasurable difference. Same situation with 50% humidity showed a 4-6% dimensional increase.  Long and short is that water is your problem which is solved by drying the tank.

Flushing the tank removes the residual fuel very well, and letting the tank sit and dry removes the water residue.

I also started rasping the interior in key spots including using a 1.5 mm drill bit to make divots in the interior surface.


The adhesive coating enters the divot holes and creates an anchor for the coating.

Done correctly, the coating is pretty near indestructible.  Just don't use 100% ethanol to test it like the factory did.

cheers, thank you!

[TWDucfan]

Look it up...

Does this mean that all other commercially available pump gas (ARCO, Chevron, Shell, Mobile, Texaco, BP...) in the US/Cal are not methanol free?   

[ducpainter]

Does this mean that all other commercially available pump gas (ARCO, Chevron, Shell, Mobile, Texaco, BP...) in the US/Cal are not methanol free?   

Ethanol...typically all pump gas in the US is 10% ethanol.

[TWDucfan]

Ethanol...typically all pump gas in the US is 10% ethanol.

 

Will it affect the 2014 Monster 796 plastic tank?

Thanks,

[kopfjäger]

I believe the tank issue was fixed prior to 14.

[TWDucfan]

I believe the tank issue was fixed prior to 14.

Phew, that is nice to know.

Thanks, kopfjäger 

[ducatiz]

 

Will it affect the 2014 Monster 796 plastic tank?

Thanks,

Lift your tank and look at the mold imprint on the bottom.  If it says PA6 then it is affected.

The later models used a cell + cover design so the outside is a separate part. They made the tank small enough that it expands and you don't know because its covered. 

[He Man]

mine is worst than before. my steering damper mount used to not touch my tank. now i put a 1-2mm deep gash into my tank.
it sat with about 1/2 gallong of fuel for over a year and sweelled up more.