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« on: July 09, 2015, 03:13:09 PM »

Well, I’ve always wanted one. And now, I am really thinking to buy one.

Primarily, it will be used for my S4R’s rear wheel nuts and clutch.
So, in theory, any impact wrench that produces more than 200 ft-lb. should do. IF I only use it for working on my own Ducati, Craftsman C3 or even Harbor freight one should be enough. But, most probably, I would start using it on my car, even use it for helping friend’s project, etc. Then, these two may not be enough, I would want something with more torque.

The easiest and quickest option is to call Snap-On tool truck guy, and get CT8850 ($719.95). This is also the most expensive option.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=power&item_ID=819277&group_ID=855042&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

Slightly less painful option would be either Ingersoll Rand W7150 ($500.96 at Zoro)
http://www.zoro.com/ingersoll-rand-cordless-impact-wrench-kit-20v-w7150-k2/i/G4931866/?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google_Shopping_Feed&gclid=CL-0oIqQz8YCFRUVjgodHUAG7Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

or Milwaukee 2763-22 ($429 at Northentool)

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200619498_200619498?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Power%20Tools%20%3E%20Drills%20%2B%20Accessories&utm_campaign=Milwaukee&utm_content=42264&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=42264&gclid=CITSuLWSz8YCFdOTvQodprMKQA

When considering everything (including warranty and battery availability), Milwaukee seems to be the best bang for the buck.

Any input anyone?
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2015, 03:16:00 PM »

Probably want to move this into Tech or A&M.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2015, 03:17:09 PM »

I love Milwaukee corded tools.

T bought me an 18v Milwaukee cordless drill.

The batteries lasted one day past the warranty.

Milwaukee cordless tools are not on my list any longer.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2015, 10:03:28 PM »


All right, let me explain a bit more.

Why do I want an impact wrench, for things like rear wheel nut(s) on the single sided swing arm bike, dry clutch drum nut, counter shaft sprocket nut, etc? ( while I can do with big breaker bar + cheater pipe + a friend (helper, to sit on a bike and step on the rear brake, for example).

Because using an impact wrench is safer (less chance of rounding the nut, less chance of dropping the bike, etc), a lot less stressful. And a helper is not always available.

Why do I want cordless, rather than corded electric impact or air impact + compressor.

Mostly because my living situation, the cordless tool works best for me. I can use corded tool. But I really don’t want to run the compressor all the time. Also, I can take cordless tools anywhere I go.

How much torque do I need ?
Now, the interesting bits.
 Here’s the tightening torque spec, of the nuts that I’m going to use the impact wrench.
(I am going to use impact wrench only to loosen the nut, NOT to tighten (I will hand tighten then use torque wrench.))

Rear wheel nut Left hand side : 156 N-m (115 ft-lb.)
Rear wheel nut right hand side : 176 N-m (130 ft-lb.)
Dry clutch drum nut : 190 N-m (140 ft-lb.)

I first looked at these two cheapest options.

Harbor Freight ($120, about 300 ft-lb. max torque, NiCd Battery. 90 days warranty)
http://www.harborfreight.com/18-Volt-12-in-Cordless-Variable-Speed-Impact-Wrench-67845.html

Craftsman ($160, 300 ft-lb. max torque, Li-ion battery, 1 year warranty)

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-c3-189-8221-heavy-duty-impact-wrench-kit/p-00945195000P?prdNo=4&blockNo=4&blockType=G4

They should be just fine, since it is supposed to produce 300 ft-lb. of torque, right?
However, some reviewer said it didn’t break the lug nuts torqued down to 140 or so.

OK, then, I thought. Get the most powerful handgun in the world ... , err, no, the most powerful impact wrench I could afford.
Hence, asking about IR W7150 and Milwaukee M18.

As I said in the first post, Milwaukee has five year warranty on the tool, three year warranty on the battery. Snap-On and IR warranty is two years.
Milwaukee and IR (and Snap-On) will do what I want. HF and Craftsman are,... kind of gamble. It may or may not be enough.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2015, 02:14:24 AM »

I understand you want cordless.

My comment was to indicate that IMO Milwaukee cordless tools suck, while their corded tools are excellent..

Buy one of the others.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2015, 02:48:26 AM »


They should be just fine, since it is supposed to produce 300 ft-lb. of torque, right?
However, some reviewer said it didn’t break the lug nuts torqued down to 140 or so.


For reference, although it is corded, I have one that is rated at 230 Ft Lb and it has no problem breaking loose either of the SSSA nuts.

Keep in mind, when reviewers discuss battery powered guns, the battery charge state may be a factor.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2015, 02:57:12 PM »

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For reference, although it is corded, I have one that is rated at 230 Ft Lb and it has no problem breaking loose either of the SSSA nuts.

Which one do you have?

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the battery charge state may be a factor.
Yes, I am aware of that. But, not only because of the low battery, it seems some of them really don't put out the torque the manufactures claim.
So, I don't want to spend over $500 for something I only use 3 -4 times a year (maybe, 5-6 times at the most), but I also don't want to end up buying the tool that's not capable to do the job that I bought the tool for.

Maybe I should consider corded ?
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2015, 03:22:26 PM »

DeWalt. You can catch some great deals, if you're not using it but a few times a year.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2015, 05:44:10 PM »

Which one do you have?
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http://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-heavy-duty-electric-impact-wrench-61173.html

Not a cost effective choice for a professional, but more than adequate for this amateur and my purposes.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2015, 04:29:02 PM »

I have Makita 18 volt battery stuff..
-drill
-rattle gun
-115 mm grinder
-reciprocating saw

brilliant gear.
the rattle gun would be one of my most used tool, both at home and work...
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2015, 08:57:42 PM »

In the end, I bought this one when it was on sale last week.
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-c3-189-8221-heavy-duty-impact-wrench-kit/p-00945195000P?prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=G3

(It was $152.99. Now, it’s back to the regular price at $179.99.)

I tested it on the rear wheel nut. (was doing rear brake bleeding.)
Rear wheel removal

Yup, it works.
It does what I bought it for, so I’m pretty happy with the purchase. ( I normally don’t buy things from Sears.)



BTW, the socket is this one.
http://www.motomfg.com/STEEL_Ducati_41mm_46mm_wheel_nut_socket_p/wh-5.htm

STEEL, 6-point. (You will need extension to use this socket)
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2015, 11:53:25 AM »


I just got a corded 'Chicago Electric' Impact Driver from Harbour Freight for only $49. It and a 30mm deep socket removed my flywheel nut just fine.   For the amt I need it and with no air compressor , this will do fine.
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2015, 05:17:43 AM »

Looks more than good enough! 👍🏻
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