Vacuum sound when opening gas cap

Started by thought, May 14, 2011, 09:07:30 PM

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thought

Hey guys, this is sort of something related to this thread:

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=48215.0

So I checked the hoses on the tank on my m796, and they seemed ok, but I still get a vacuum/air rushing in sound when opening my gas cap when i fill up my tank.  Is this normal or should I check for kinks again?  I haven't noticed anything as bad as the orig post e.g.no expansion, just a slight vacuum.

Does everyone else get that sound too?
'10 SFS 1098
'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold

EEL

your vent line from your tank is clogged..

it should not make a suction noise. You'll fry your pump or get a reduced pressure at your injector assembly. Check your hoses from your tank and make sure the vent and overflow lines arent pinched. Better yet, make the dealer earn his commission.

thought

Quote from: EEL on May 14, 2011, 09:58:00 PM
your vent line from your tank is clogged..

it should not make a suction noise. You'll fry your pump or get a reduced pressure at your injector assembly. Check your hoses from your tank and make sure the vent and overflow lines arent pinched. Better yet, make the dealer earn his commission.

dammit.

i was hoping that it was normal... i'll go check the vent lines one more time and if it's still happening, i'll bring it back to the dealer.  it should be covered under warranty work right?
'10 SFS 1098
'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold

EEL

Should be. Unless your dealer is a "point the finger back at your kind"

DDDuc

I had the same problem on the M1100.  Took it to the dealer and they said that they have seen this a few times.  apparently the hose that goes from the tank to the emissions canister has a sharp bend in it.  when it gets hot from its proximity to the engine, it can collapse, cutting off flow.  The dealer said they can fix it (under warranty) or remove the emissions canister.  My bike is now lighter . . . the problem is gone.

2-Skinny

Step 1: Clear hose of clog.

Step 2: Remove emissions canister/ use silicone or vinyl caps on throttle body nipples.

Bike looks better/ tank problem likely to not happen again.
I don't own a Ducati...but I wrench on one.

thought

thanks for the info guys, i popped the tank covers off and messed around with the hoses... vacuum kept on happening even after the hoses were totally free of any kinks.  so it's at the dealership now because i didnt want to bother looking for the clog... and ddduc, i guess i'm not the only one.  haha

i'm prob going to hold off taking off the canister till the winter though...  haha, dont want to waste the nice weather.
'10 SFS 1098
'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold

2-Skinny

If it matters, it takes like a half hour to remove it- and that's if you don't know what you're doing...
I don't own a Ducati...but I wrench on one.

Raux

you can do a check by just totally unhooked the hoses and see if you still get the issue. might be the valve itself

thought

i figure by this point, as it's still under warranty, let the dealer take care of it...  they picked up and will deliver for me so it's not that big of an issue to get it to them.

and i'll go ahead and order that euro side cover for the canister...  maybe i'll do it this summer then if it doesnt take too long.  [thumbsup]
'10 SFS 1098
'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold

thought

just a quick update... they looked at it, and they said that a lot of other bikes also had this issue, but my vent hoses arent clogged either.  basically they said that they guess it's normal, and i didnt want to bother telling them about the kink from the engine heat.

placed a order for the euro side cover, i'll be deleting the canister once it comes in ;)
'10 SFS 1098
'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold

OT

Actually, it's the sound of the gasoline companies sucking the money out of your wallet....  :P

bdub

when I had that problem my tank vent was clogged. Compressed air into the vent fixed it.
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BoDiddley

Quote from: bdub on June 11, 2011, 02:50:05 PM
when I had that problem my tank vent was clogged. Compressed air into the vent fixed it.

Just curious for future refernce, what would clog a vent hose?  And anyone doing the Caswell trip be sure to cover the vent fittings. [thumbsup]
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Ddan

The hose in the tank can deteriorate enough that it collapses shut.  You can still blow air through it but it won't vent properly.
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