40K on the 620, now what?

[evoasis]

Soooo, many of you have seen my 620 over the years and I know I've come to love it; only once has it let me down due to the alternator/stator going out which was an easy fix..  Well, now the clutch is finally starting to give out in 5th and 6th gear, so instead of buying a new clutch I'm looking into an engine swap

Ducati guy has done it (http://urlm.in/fped) and I wanna do something similar..

Guzzitech from Torrance has a GT1000 engine for sale,(http://urlm.in/fpeh) but it's a wet clutch 1000DS, versus Ducati Guy's S2R1000 wet clutch swap, so things aren't exactly the same...  

1) Will it bolt up? It looks like it will, but I can't be sure because the frames/ swingarms are so different.

2)  With an unlocked ecu, will the GT1000's wire harness plug into the 620's Gauge Cluster?  Having to buy less items = happier me.

3)  Any unforseen errors?  I'm a light person, so the extra weight doesn't scare me..  I hear I may have to transfer the fuel pressure regulator off the 620 which is no biggie and I'd prob fab up a custom exhaust set-up to make it more unique..  I would go straight to an S2R 1000DS engine, but I cannot find one local at a reasonable price... Heck, even an 800cc would be just fine~

ain't she ugly?

[Speeddog]

What year is your 620?

[evoasis]

Best year ever made, Nick, it's a 2005.  Why the best year? Cause it's the year I own..hahaha

[evoasis]

The thing about this project, is it's for fun; I don't want my bike to be more powerful, but that'd merely be a side-affect.  I just love turning wrenches..

[suzyj]

Rather than just swap motors, why not play with your current one...

http://www.ferracci.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=749

[Speeddog]

I think swapping in an 800 would be pretty simple.

It's a bit bigger motor, a bit more power.
Really nearly the same engine as you have now.
The 800's are quite durable.

Hopping up your current motor is always an option.

[evoasis]

Yeah I could beef up the 620 and all, but that many miles on it kinda defeats the purposeeee, especially when I can find a perfect excuse to get a ridiculously large engine for this lil 620.. hahaha

[evoasis]

And in the end, I'd still have to replace the clutch... :/

[booger]

Definitely at least go with a dry clutch 900ie or 1000DS engine. I wouldn't waste the time or money on another wet clutcher if I were going to the trouble of a swap. The 800 is a very sweet engine and quite easy to live with, but the power increase vs getting away with paying 620 insurance rates would be nice. Sounds like a fun project.

[evoasis]

Go big or go home, right?

[caperix]

From what I understand if you have the stock ECU reflashed to the specs from the engine you plan on using that would save on the costs of needing a new ECU and gauge cluster.  A 1000ds would need dual output coils but I think the 620 wiring harness could be reused.
Engine upgrades could get you a nice increase in power, I think FBF claims 72 hp out of their 750 kit for the 620.  New pistons & replated cylinders should take care of most of the enine wear your 40k bike would have.  This winter I plan on converting my 620 to a 750 and upgrading to 800 heads and cams for hopefuly similar output to an 800 at less cost.
I know some will hate me for saying this but if you have put 40k on your bike sence 2005 you may be happier staying with a wet clutch motor.  The dry cluch sound is cool but the wet is a little more street friendly. 
What ever direction you deside to go good luck with the build

[Howie]

I'm not sure if they are all the same.  I believe the pins are different on some as well as the ability to control a stepper motor for idle and warm up.

[evoasis]

That's what I was afraid of, that darn lil "choke" handle...  Hmmf.. Lot's to ponder, lots to ponder.

[brad black]

1000m has a fast idle lever just like a 620.  you'll need the motor, inlet manifolds, exhaust headers and ecu.  everything else is the same.

altho the noise of a dry clutch can shit me to tears, a wet clutch slipping with a hotted up motor is less fun.  my 750 now has a very heavy clutch to stop it slipping.  of course fitting a new pack instead of jamming up s/h ones with extra plates because i'm a tight arse may have something to do with that.  but the non aptc wet clutches are as heavy as any dry.

the 1000 motors have a nice wide ratio gearbox too, as do 900ssie - it's a good thing.  900mie motors have the close ratio.

[evoasis]

What's this 1000m motor you speak of?? 

If anyone has any hot tips on 1000DS engines for sale I'm all earsss, people crash these things every-day and swap em out for people like meeee!

I'm still eyeing that engine for sale in Torrance, it's just a matter of getting everything I need for it..