Ducati Monster Forum

Just as the title says.

https://youtu.be/qh5L-HXDmzo

(If you are physically big and strong, it probably doesn't matter how you do it.
It does matter if you are short / skinny.)

The only "Monster specific" part is where to grab.
This works for all sport bikes, dual sport & ADV bikes.

How to pick up dropped Ducati Monster    
chapter 0

Why did I say, forget about this method?

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Yes, police motorcycle officers do it that way, because this is how their bike "drops".

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The hardest part of the job has already been taken care of by the bumper and floor board.

This is the "starting point" (and more than 50% of "picking up" is already done.)

( I will explain that in the next post / video. Meanwhile, please look at the “wheelbarrow drawing”, as an example of class 2 lever function.)
The length of the red arrow indicates the amount of force.

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When you drop the "slim, no as heavy as full dress H-D but with higher Center of Gravity bike", it goes down like this.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47871474611_4f2fc2ee27_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fWePzV)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32927350077_48f03a79e3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SaFh1n)

Compare that with the picture of the Harley above.

https://youtu.be/m6_GoEPSBto

https://youtu.be/5kbbWfpLz08




BTW, outside of US, police officers don't pick up their motorcycles that way.

https://youtu.be/lWEXHD53J3g

(You can see, he's "pushing the bike up")

https://youtu.be/B-nyuMzFhzc

https://youtu.be/JGbBVM_3ZeQ

... to be continued...
(in the next video / post, I will show you how to calculate the amount of force needed to pick up the dropped bike.)

How to calculate the amount of force needed to pick up the bike

https://youtu.be/kjcnZATCsV4

Chaptor 1 : How much force do you need to push up the dropped Monster?


How to calculate the amount of force needed to pick up the bike

Let’s use my S4R as an example.

The dry weight of S4R is 181kg (399 lb.), according to Ducati.
Add fuel, oil, coolant & battery,...
 let’s say it weighs 210kg (463 lb.), and it’s dropped.
How much force do you actually need to pick up this bike?



stage 1

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This is your starting point.
The bike is dropped, laying down on the ground,
leaning on the frame slider.

The “lean angle” of the dropped bike 𝜃 is approximately 70°.
(In other words, it’s 20° from the ground line.)

L1 : The gravity is pulling the bike toward the earth, with the amount of 210kg(463lb.)
 Force L1 can be divided into L1’ and L1”

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L1’ can be calculated as...

L1’ ÷ L1 =sin 𝜃

L1’ = sin 𝜃 x L1 = sin 70 x 210 =197.34 kg

So, if you apply the force,
which is more than 197.34kg (426 lb.),
in  exactly opposite direction of L1’,
you can push the bike up.

Let’s call this force L2.

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Now, remember what I said in the first video?
 “think it as class 2 lever”

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When you push up the motorcycle, you don’t push it at the center of  mass.
You apply the force much higher place, near the top of the motorcycle.

A1 : load arm length (Distance between the fulcrum and Center of mass of the bike)
A2: Effort arm length (Distance between the fulcrum and the point where you apply the force)

On S4R, A1 : A2 ≒ 2 : 3

E1 : Force needed to push up the bike

E1=(L1’ x A1) ÷ A2
    =(197 x 2) ÷ 3
    = 131.33 kg (290 lb.)

So, you need  to apply roughly a little bit more than 131 kg (290 lb.)
of force, at the top (near the top)  of the bike.


... to be continued