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Title: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: Speeddog on March 27, 2019, 11:27:39 AM
What are the chances, a GP19 sitting with a cover on, but only exposing *that* much. Must be oddly breezy....  [laugh]


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Pic by Borja González


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: koko64 on March 27, 2019, 11:50:31 AM
 [laugh] [clap]
Ducati giving the other mfrs the bird.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: Speeddog on March 27, 2019, 12:59:33 PM
Indeed!

~50% chance of rain starting sunset Saturday going thru Sunday.
Certainly won't throw a spanner in the works or anything.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: ducpainter on March 27, 2019, 02:49:04 PM
I can't comprehend how they go that fast in the rain.

I don't even like going in a straight line in the rain. It wasn't so bad 25 years ago. :P


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: Speeddog on March 27, 2019, 04:02:12 PM
I've gone nearly as fast as they do, and it's stupid windy even 170-ish, flat out trying to tear you off the bike even with a fairing.
There's a reason the little kink at Mugello makes MM roll out a bit, it's f'n bonkers.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: koko64 on March 29, 2019, 02:24:39 PM
Jack 2nd in FP1 and FP2.
FP2, Dovi, Jack and Cal. It's tight.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: kopfjäger on March 30, 2019, 11:15:22 AM
Top five within 0.244

Qualifying 2:

Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 38.304s [Lap 7/8] 326km/h (Top Speed)
Maverick Viñales ESP Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 38.458s +0.154s [Lap 6/7] 319k
Andrea Dovizioso ITA Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19) 1m 38.468s +0.164s [Lap 6/7] 326k
Valentino Rossi ITA Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 38.545s +0.241s [Lap 6/7] 321k
Jack Miller AUS Pramac Ducati (GP19) 1m 38.548s +0.244s [Lap 6/7] 328k
Franco Morbidelli ITA Petronas Yamaha SRT (YZR-M1) 1m 38.886s +0.582s [Lap 6/7] 318k
Fabio Quartararo FRA Petronas Yamaha SRT (YZR-M1)* 1m 38.897s +0.593s [Lap 6/8] 322k
Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 38.955s +0.651s [Lap 3/7] 328k
Takaaki Nakagami JPN LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 39.038s +0.734s [Lap 7/8] 321k
Danilo Petrucci ITA Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19) 1m 39.093s +0.789s [Lap 6/6] 327k
Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 39.489s +1.185s [Lap 3/8] 327k
Jorge Lorenzo ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 39.520s +1.216s [Lap 5/7] 325k
Qualifying 1:

Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 39.288s 325k
Miguel Oliveira POR Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)* 1m 39.298s 317k
Karel Abraham CZE Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18) 1m 39.331s 325k
Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 39.384s 318k
Francesco Bagnaia ITA Pramac Ducati (GP18)* 1m 39.387s 322k
Johann Zarco FRA Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 39.571s 322k
Joan Mir SPA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 39.605s 326k
Tito Rabat ESP Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18) 1m 39.978s 326k
Hafizh Syahrin MAL Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16) 1m 40.053s 316k
Andrea Iannone ITA Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 40.118s 318k


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: kopfjäger on March 30, 2019, 05:03:18 PM
 [evil] [evil]


https://www.instagram.com/p/BvpzxnYl5Mg/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=dpzu6rhypv0k


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: koko64 on March 30, 2019, 10:02:53 PM
Wow  ;D


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: kopfjäger on March 31, 2019, 05:48:55 AM
Everyone is practicing for flag to flag during WUP.  [popcorn]


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: kopfjäger on March 31, 2019, 07:42:25 AM
Moto3  [clap] Great race! Masia gets his first win.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: triangleforge on March 31, 2019, 09:42:24 AM
Watching Moto2 with frantic Italian commentary - which means I have even less of a clue than usual what's going on.  [thumbsup]

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Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: kopfjäger on March 31, 2019, 09:46:39 AM
80 degrados and getting sunny. Tracks gonna get greasy.  [popcorn]


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: kopfjäger on March 31, 2019, 09:49:43 AM
Several teams are swapping out rears on the start grid.  [popcorn]


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: kopfjäger on March 31, 2019, 10:02:17 AM
Will someone please teach my boy how to launch that bike at the start.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: kopfjäger on March 31, 2019, 10:47:06 AM
Rossi cut Dovi’s nuts out with a great pass.  [clap] Morbidelli crashed my boy out on the final lap.  >:(. MM is gonna run away with it.  [bow_down]


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: koko64 on March 31, 2019, 10:50:25 AM
Watched live timing , so I'll watch a recording tonight. Good fight for fourth ? MM smashed em again there.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: koko64 on March 31, 2019, 04:52:07 PM
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2019/03/31/marquez-obliterates-opposition-in-titanic-termas-showing/288100



Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: lazylightnin717 on March 31, 2019, 05:02:54 PM
MotoGP didn’t really even bother airing much of MM just cruising along at 8 tenths faster than the rest of the field. That was just insane.

Thankfully there was a better fight behind him.

Good on Rins for bringing the heat on Sunday. I enjoy watching him race.

Can’t help but shed a tear when I think about Zarco just turning laps way in the back of the field.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: duccarlos on April 01, 2019, 03:47:18 AM
MV's start was bad, but JLo's was terrible. The rookies are makings for a good show, but watching some of the vets become backmarkers is painful. How long do you think daddy will continue to bank roll Abraham?


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: Speeddog on April 01, 2019, 10:17:08 AM
JLo confirms that a race start with the pitlane speed limiter engaged is largely unsuccessful.
Very fortunate that Zarco didn't hammer into the back of him.

Cal pushed the edge of the envelope, resulting in a severe flesh wound rather than a more appropriate paper cut.
Everybody lost out.

Somehow Argentina can't get a MotoGP race off the grid without some sort of haywire.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: stopintime on April 01, 2019, 11:26:07 AM
JLo ....
Very fortunate that Zarco didn't hammer into the back of him....


Someone qualified behind him?


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: ducpainter on April 01, 2019, 01:47:01 PM
JLo confirms that a race start with the pitlane speed limiter engaged is largely unsuccessful.
Very fortunate that Zarco didn't hammer into the back of him.

Cal pushed the edge of the envelope, resulting in a severe flesh wound rather than a more appropriate paper cut.
Everybody lost out.

Somehow Argentina can't get a MotoGP race off the grid without some sort of haywire.
Cal was robbed.


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: koko64 on April 01, 2019, 05:10:46 PM
Very literal and technical infringment considering no obvious advantage was gained. A warning after the race should have sufficed imo. I think the telemetry showed the clutch was fully to the bar and Crusty rolled a cm or two forward while balancing in his toes. :-\


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: Speeddog on April 01, 2019, 05:28:48 PM
He gained lots more from (legally) acing the timing than he did by that silly little roll.
The side view video is pretty good, he does roll, by my eye ~2".

In this case, the punishment was way past the level of the infraction.
IMO, if the punishment was a "long lap" for a no-advantage jump, and an advantageous jump still pulled the ride through, that would still be deterrent enough.
Or maybe "front axle ahead of the box before the lights go out, and you get a ride through".

Problem is trying to remove the human judgement task, how do you define "advantageous rolling" in a black and white manner......

How do they do it with track and field starts?


Title: Re: Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina 2019 (SpOiLeR)
Post by: kopfjäger on April 01, 2019, 05:59:27 PM
https://youtu.be/4osvLhrWhB8


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