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Title: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: jaso1 on July 09, 2011, 06:26:09 PM Hi all .
Does anybody know of a Ryco brand oil filter part number that fits ducati's ? I've done a bit of searching but not found one reference to ryco filter at all . Thanks Jason. Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: mattyvas on July 09, 2011, 07:39:23 PM I'd be surprised if you could get a Ryco filter being they are more cars than bikes.
You can get a K&N that is usually about $25 but then the last Ducati one I bought was only $30 Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: jaso1 on July 09, 2011, 08:28:02 PM From some of the stuff I've read there are several cross references to car filters that fit fine and are also in the requiered specs , trouble is I don't have a Ryco number to reference . I'm pretty sure there will be one .
Here is a list of compatiable filters I came across - But no Ryco number ofcourse , lol . AC Delco FX0011 (was X4A) Motorcraft EFL 47 Champion H101 NAPA: 1352 (1352NAPA and 551352 on the box) Cooper Z64 Powertrain FL125 Fiaam FT4654, FT 4847 or PA7059 Purflux LS187 Fram PH6074 (was PH2839, PH2864A) Purolator ML16829C (was FC 103 or OC 5) Halfords HOF216 Tecafilter Ref OC5 K & N KN-153 Technocar R12, R72, R434 Knecht OC 5 (equivalent to Ducati #065149960 and #090549960) TJ FB2094 Mann & H W712/9, W712/11 Unipart GFE 201 Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: J5 on July 09, 2011, 09:20:19 PM i normally buy aftermarket filters for anything i own
hondas are easy $5 generic filter the ducati has an odd thread size so my filter guy told me and that was $25 for a MANN filter next option i thought about was to buy a bunch from the US as you can get aftermarket ones quite cheap over there $5-$10 and with the dollar up atm it could be a good opportunity to get some in i have messaged an ebay seller and curious to hear back costs Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: monsta on July 09, 2011, 10:46:27 PM what about this one...
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/5/87/15423/20210/PITEM/Emgo-Standard-Oil-Filter-2002-Ducati-M620-Monster-Parts.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/5/87/15423/20210/PITEM/Emgo-Standard-Oil-Filter-2002-Ducati-M620-Monster-Parts.aspx) (http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/300/0000_Emgo_Standard_Oil_Filter_--.jpg) I'm very tempted to try this one... http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/5/87/19141/ITEM/PC-Racing-FLO-Spin-On-Oil-Filter-With-Housing.aspx?WT.ac=Recently_Viewed (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/5/87/19141/ITEM/PC-Racing-FLO-Spin-On-Oil-Filter-With-Housing.aspx?WT.ac=Recently_Viewed) (http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/300/0000_PC_Racing_FLO_Spin_On_Oil_Filter_With_Housing_--.jpg) Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: loony888 on July 10, 2011, 12:25:46 AM dunno about skimping on oil filters, could end up being false economy, it's not like you save much anyway.
paul. Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: dragonworld. on July 10, 2011, 12:52:43 AM I've been using the K&N filters for 5 or 6 years now on both my older 750 and the newer 1000DS.
I have bought them from CA Cycleworks, usually 6 at a time and ATM they are $13 US. I buy them in bulk and save on shipping. I like the K&N filter because its easy to loosen and tighten having a Hex nut shape molded into the top of the filter body. [thumbsup] No more dicking around with filter tools, just a socket or ring spanner does the job. ;D Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: rendang on July 10, 2011, 12:57:38 AM Quote dunno about skimping on oil filters, could end up being false economy, it's not like you save much anyway. What brands do you think are the best quality, and what do you think about the re-usable filters, as in the one pictured above your post ? cheers Steve Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: loony888 on July 10, 2011, 01:15:25 AM What brands do you think are the best quality, and what do you think about the re-usable filters, as in the one pictured above your post ? cheers Steve best quality? very subjective question that. i'm not saying the genuine ducati part is better quality than any other filter, paper is the finest filter medium so i would assume all paper filters filter about the same, what i would say is the genuine ducati filter is "fit for purpose" it's made under licence to a specific specification for ducati, aftermarket stuff is deliberately engineered to be cheaper, often with multiple applications in mind and things like bypass valves and the flow and pressures used _may_ be considerably different, i'm not saying other stuff is rubbish but i only trust genuine service parts. As for reusable filters, stainless steel woven mesh won't filter down to a small enough micron to be fitted as original equipment (at least that i know of) so i'll stick with disposable paper elements, besides there's the stainless mesh filter screen there already. In my mind frequent oil and filter changes are the cheapest and easiest way to ensure long and healthy engine life, if $100 every 5000 klms is too expensive maybe a ducati isn't the bike to be riding. paul Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: mattyvas on July 10, 2011, 01:35:41 AM dunno about skimping on oil filters, could end up being false economy, it's not like you save much anyway. paul. My thoughts exactly Paul, I'm totally with you on that. K&N is the only other filter I'd use other than a Ducati item. Totally up to the user. Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: dragonworld. on July 10, 2011, 01:57:59 AM best quality? very subjective question that. i'm not saying the genuine ducati part is better quality than any other filter, paper is the finest filter medium so i would assume all paper filters filter about the same, what i would say is the genuine ducati filter is "fit for purpose" it's made under licence to a specific specification for ducati, aftermarket stuff is deliberately engineered to be cheaper, often with multiple applications in mind and things like bypass valves and the flow and pressures used _may_ be considerably different, i'm not saying other stuff is rubbish but i only trust genuine service parts. As for reusable filters, stainless steel woven mesh won't filter down to a small enough micron to be fitted as original equipment (at least that i know of) so i'll stick with disposable paper elements, besides there's the stainless mesh filter screen there already. In my mind frequent oil and filter changes are the cheapest and easiest way to ensure long and healthy engine life, if $100 every 5000 klms is too expensive maybe a ducati isn't the bike to be riding. paul Spot On Paul!! [thumbsup] [clap] Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: J5 on July 10, 2011, 02:44:38 AM best quality? very subjective question that. i'm not saying the genuine ducati part is better quality than any other filter, paper is the finest filter medium so i would assume all paper filters filter about the same, there is vast differences in aftermarket filters and there is quite a bit of info around regarding comparisons of different filters, you will normally see a bunch of pics of cut open filters http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/ (http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/) http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html (http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html) http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html (http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html) http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Filters.html#OilFilters (http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Filters.html#OilFilters) As for reusable filters, stainless steel woven mesh won't filter down to a small enough micron to be fitted as original equipment (at least that i know of) so i'll stick with disposable paper elements, besides there's the stainless mesh filter screen there already. the stainless ones filter finer than paper and have the benefit of being able to be cleaned and reused , many dirt bikes have mesh ones from factory but they do have their drawbacks In my mind frequent oil and filter changes are the cheapest and easiest way to ensure long and healthy engine life, if $100 every 5000 klms is too expensive maybe a ducati isn't the bike to be riding. imho regular oil changes are the most important thing funny thing about genuine filters my holden colorado filter is $55 at holden yet $35 at isuzu or decent aftermarket is $20 friend has a holden cruise and it has a paper drop in filter and its $61 :o Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: FIFO on July 10, 2011, 03:05:22 AM Some good links there J5
Will make me rethink K,N filters, like the comment ;) (Made by Hi Flo. Average filter with a $6 nut welded onto the end cap.) :o http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html (http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html) Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: jaso1 on July 10, 2011, 03:08:38 AM Ok done more research , (haven't found a Ryco equivalent yet) , but the best oil filter you can buy for a Ducati period apparently is an Amsoil EaOM138 which is a synthetic microfibre jiggy that filters down to 10 micron , has more space in it to capture dirt etc and flows 3/4 better than a standard paper type filter .
From what I've read reusable housing set-up with cleanable elements are not much chop even compared to standard filters ! I'll proably just order in some K+N 153's as they are a ok unit , not good , not bad but ok . Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: brad black on July 10, 2011, 03:17:13 AM i think it's a z92, from an alfa or the like. i've seen a few fitted over the years.
genuine filters should only cost you $23 or so. Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: jaso1 on July 10, 2011, 06:32:46 PM Hey Brad , thanks for that .
By the way I just had a look on your site and wow , some great info there on setting up duc's. I might have to give you a buzz one day to get you to check over my tps set-up etc . cheers Jason. Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: brad black on July 11, 2011, 03:30:11 AM don't thank me, turns out z92 is a fuel filter. z84, z89a maybe, i know i've seen a few rycos fitted over the years. you can search the ryco site by thread, might be the easiest way to do it.
Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2011, 03:57:03 AM Guys, check out the link in my sig below.
If you can find the HiFlo filter locally, it is a top notch model -- it it is repackaged by KN for their Ducati filter. I can get the HiFlo here in the states for around $7 each. Ryco is a brand that has ~never~ popped up in my searches for cross referenced filters. I have the diagram with the dimensions somewhere, I'll post it. Thread: M16 x 1.5 O.D.: 3in (76.2mm) Length: 2 31/32in (75.4mm) Bypas: 8-12 psi Title: Re: Ryco filter substitute ? Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2011, 04:05:01 AM Oh, lookie what I found:
http://www.baldwinfilter.com/literature/AUS/Aust_Cross_Ref.pdf (http://www.baldwinfilter.com/literature/AUS/Aust_Cross_Ref.pdf) RYO Z128 B7292 B7292 is a Baldwin filter for Ducati and they seem to believe the Z128 filter is a cross ref. |