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Title: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 23, 2009, 11:47:59 PM S2R waiting for parts to return from paint shop. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/powdercoat5.jpg) Took the opportunity to do the 14th tooth mod. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/backend2.jpg) And some new pods. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1342.jpg) Parts back from paint shop! Nice~ (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/powdercoat.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/powdercoat3.jpg) Swing arm back on. Also cut-off(Dremel) the stock brackets that used to hold the passenger foot pegs, side covers and coils(I will relocated this later on custom PCB assembly box). (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/frame3.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/frame7.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/frame2.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1370.jpg) 3 light coats of can paint (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/paint.jpg) Master link back in chain (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/chain3.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/chain4.jpg) Front end work: Prep to remove top/bottom triple clamps and shocks. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1411.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1428.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/chain1.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1435.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1437.jpg) ...to be continued Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: j|rz44 on July 24, 2009, 01:18:05 AM Looks like some good fun! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: kumabull on July 24, 2009, 03:14:57 AM Sweet cant wait to see the finished product !! [thumbsup] [coffee]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: KEH on July 24, 2009, 04:41:28 AM Nice collection of bikes!
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: filter on July 24, 2009, 06:39:12 AM Very nice. Keep posting the pics -- looks like you're doing some excellent work.
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: redial on July 24, 2009, 07:20:20 AM nice bike, nice work, great thread, and sexy mh900e! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: al@sktc on July 24, 2009, 09:34:26 AM looks great! [clap]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: arai_speed on July 24, 2009, 10:48:57 AM You had the rear sprocket "painted" or powder coated? I'm wondering how it will hold up after some use. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: ProTeal55 on July 24, 2009, 11:32:03 AM I am also about to hack off my stock pass. peg mounts and so on like you did.
If I may askwhat color and brand paint did you end up going with ? Been having a hell of a time trying to find something that matches the stock frame color.. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Rufus120 on July 24, 2009, 12:00:09 PM Nice progress so far. Will be watchin'
[popcorn] Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 24, 2009, 03:08:33 PM Thanks guys. I'm not mechanically inclined. It is not my domain what so ever. I just know enough to be dangerous. Most of the things I'm doing on my s2r I've read/learned from this site. So... really. Thank you DMF [thumbsup] This is indeed a great site!
You had the rear sprocket "painted" or powder coated? I'm wondering how it will hold up after some use. [thumbsup] Yes. It is powder coated... for now. I don't expect it to last long either [thumbsup]I figured why not?... It wasn't anymore or less expensive since i was having the swing-arm, rear sets and other bits such as the kick stand powder coated. If any of you are looking for a great powder coating place in the SF Bay area. Shoot me an email. I am also about to hack off my stock pass. peg mounts and so on like you did. If I may askwhat color and brand paint did you end up going with ? Been having a hell of a time trying to find something that matches the stock frame color.. When you find a match pls. let me know :) I took a piece of the bracket i chopped off to an industrial automotive paint store. Buddy there said he could not get me the match in an aerosol spray coz: 1. My sample was too small of a surface to use their matching tool on. 2. The shiny flakes(whatever it's called) Ducati puts in the paint used on the frame don't come in a can :( So we chose something out of a catalog that best matched in terms of gloss. It's all you can do really for a rattle can. I used SEM 39143 trim black. It says it matches factory finish on many automotive exterior trim components. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: He Man on July 24, 2009, 03:14:59 PM dude your swing arm looks sick!, what kind of black is that? it has a black chrome look to it!
as for the sprocket, be prepared to clean some powder chips of your chain for the first run around the block but regarldess that rear looks sick man. good job! Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 24, 2009, 03:57:47 PM Installed an aftermarket SportClassic top triple clamp. Don't ask me where to buy it. I got it as an extra when i bought my used 06 Sport1000 last month. Pickup the bottom triple on flea Bay. I have a stock 06 s2r triple clamp set for sale if any one is interested ;D
Then had a beer... [drink] then a second [drink] Bear Republic Racer 5 IPA. Hummm hummm hummm... good stuff! If you get a chance to buy this beer. Pls do yourself a favor a pick a 6-pack. One of the best IPA to ever be put in a bottle. I don't say this to just about any beer! [thumbsup] (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/toptriple1.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/toptriple0.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/toptriple.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/toptriple4.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/toptriple8.jpg) Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: MotoCreations on July 24, 2009, 05:54:50 PM Everyone thinks "color color color" when it comes to powdercoating & paint. But sometimes what is more important is the "gloss factor" -- here is a prime example of maybe @45-50% gloss powdercoating looking much better than 100% gloss.
Great job -- keep up the good work and paying attention to not just the color itself but the gloss factor as well! That upper triple looks cool too. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: duc996 on July 25, 2009, 12:43:56 AM It looks like a nice project! i envy you.Me ? i just ride the damn thing :-)
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: RUFKM on July 25, 2009, 06:26:40 AM Then had a beer... [drink] then a second [drink] Good job keeping the mechanic hydrated. This work can be very dangerous otherwise! [beer] Thanks for sharing the work pictures. The bike is looking great. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: vaclav on July 25, 2009, 07:34:38 AM That looks great Ohmic! I love the blacked-out look. Will there be some custom electrical work in there?
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: rizduc on July 27, 2009, 05:05:54 AM Now that's my kind of garage. Sweet bikes man.. I wish I was your neighbor...
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: DucHead on July 27, 2009, 08:41:00 AM With that very nice SC top triple, you really need to file the casting lines off the bottom clamp. ;D
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 27, 2009, 02:31:13 PM Yes. Mark is correct. It is a 50% gloss. The next time around I would even consider a 40% gloss.
That looks great Ohmic! I love the blacked-out look. Will there be some custom electrical work in there? Thanks! I'm currently in the process to designing a "breakout" board. A PCB that will integrate the stock wire harness loom into a small compact ~3" x ~4" piece of copper. All relays, coils, current drivers for LEDs, etc... can be located on this PCB and/or substituted with their solid state equivalent. All controlled via FPGA(a type of microcontroller). This will clean the bike some while eliminating the rat's nest that comes with using terminal blocks or customized harness. Because most of the signals will pass through this board I will add in some cool "bells-&-whistles". TBA later. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 27, 2009, 02:40:07 PM Installed the clip-ons
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/clip-ons1.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/clip-ons3.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/clip-ons4.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/clip-ons2.jpg) Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: NAKID on July 27, 2009, 05:04:55 PM REALLY like the way that SC triple looks...
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: nikkimonster on July 27, 2009, 07:09:05 PM wow thats some commitment with the hacking of passenger peg and exhaust mounting brackets. but looks hella sick without them. are you going with boomtubes or exbox?
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: damianS4RS on July 28, 2009, 10:15:42 AM Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: TAftonomos on July 28, 2009, 02:49:05 PM I'm currently in the process to designing a "breakout" board. A PCB that will integrate the stock wire harness loom into a small compact ~3" x ~4" piece of copper. All relays, coils, current drivers for LEDs, etc... can be located on this PCB and/or substituted with their solid state equivalent. All controlled via FPGA(a type of microcontroller). This will clean the bike some while eliminating the rat's nest that comes with using terminal blocks or customized harness. Because most of the signals will pass through this board I will add in some cool "bells-&-whistles". TBA later. Sounds like the motogadget piece that I need to buy. Any idea if you'll build more.....I'd rather keep the money here if I can :). Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 28, 2009, 10:05:25 PM wow thats some commitment with the hacking of passenger peg and exhaust mounting brackets. but looks hella sick without them. are you going with boomtubes or exbox? Not the Exbox. Not for me. No way. I wanted the Boomtubes.... Bad! Very bad i wanted them. When I got this 06' S2R1000, the boomtubes were unavailable. I was also living in Canada then. Summer is short up there [bang] :-\ So i had a custom exhaust made so i would not miss riding season. Next bike will have some MotorCreations pipes for sure! Mark S. and I have been talking. Here is how it looked before. v1. Pipe has gone through some alteration since. I'll post newer pics when I put them back on. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/bernard-s2r_3.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/before.jpg) Here is a drive by vid. It has a nice deep growl. Like a real live Monster [thumbsup] http://s617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/?action=view¤t=vid_s2r_driveby.flv (http://s617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/?action=view¤t=vid_s2r_driveby.flv) Sounds like the motogadget piece that I need to buy. Any idea if you'll build more.....I'd rather keep the money here if I can :). I'll more then likely order 4-5 prototypes depending on the size of the PCB panel; Hence price break. If demand is there i'll look into perhaps doing a ver2 and bring it to market. Don't expect this until Dec. My s2r will be used as a mockup prototype to work out the bugs.Presently trying to finalized the board layout. Circuit is ~75% captured. The Monster don't leave that much room "prime realestate"? to install something like this even after you pull out the stock harness. Most likely it will be located in the tail section where the electronics can run cooler and increase reliability(MTBF). Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 28, 2009, 10:13:01 PM Back on 2 wheels [thumbsup]
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/frontwheelson.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/frontwheelson2.jpg) Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: OT on July 29, 2009, 06:06:35 PM Nice job! It's amazing what something as insignificant as changing the front sprocket can lead to.... ;D
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: vaclav on July 30, 2009, 03:10:43 AM Have you decided what FPGA you will be using yet?
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: MaxPower on July 31, 2009, 01:35:30 PM Yes. Mark is correct. It is a 50% gloss. The next time around I would even consider a 40% gloss. Thanks! I'm currently in the process to designing a "breakout" board. A PCB that will integrate the stock wire harness loom into a small compact ~3" x ~4" piece of copper. All relays, coils, current drivers for LEDs, etc... can be located on this PCB and/or substituted with their solid state equivalent. All controlled via FPGA(a type of microcontroller). This will clean the bike some while eliminating the rat's nest that comes with using terminal blocks or customized harness. Because most of the signals will pass through this board I will add in some cool "bells-&-whistles". TBA later. This is really interesting. What made you go with an FPGA vs micro? Technical requirement? Personal preference? I'm curious cause I have an electrical project in the pipe for my bike too, just not familiar at all with FPGAs. Keep us posted on the progress, it sounds cool. And the bike looks rad too [thumbsup] Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Juan on August 01, 2009, 06:40:37 PM That sweet looking triple complements your sweet looking bike..!! [drink]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on August 02, 2009, 09:18:04 AM Have you decided what FPGA you will be using yet? Yes. I'll be using an Altera. Something in their Cyclone family. I've used them on past projects.This is really interesting. What made you go with an FPGA vs micro? Technical requirement? Personal preference? I'm curious cause I have an electrical project in the pipe for my bike too, just not familiar at all with FPGAs. Don't get me wrong. A uC will be just fine if you want to go that route.My personal preference for this application (especially a simple "break-out" board), with no complex floating point calculations, a FPGA is the perfect tool. Its none sequential architecture will make short work in the implementation/development. And if need be, I can always download a soft core processor. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: BumbleB on August 03, 2009, 04:49:04 AM Your bike looks great! Love the swingarm, pods are killer, too. Nice work!
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on August 03, 2009, 01:21:48 PM Installed an aftermarket SportClassic top triple clamp. Don't ask me where to buy it. I got it as an extra when i bought my used 06 Sport1000 last month. Pickup the bottom triple on flea Bay. Im really interested in doing this to my bike as I already have clip ons and dont want the speedymoto triple. what was involved in the swap? I looked into this briefly but gave up when I thought I saw that the sport classic had 53mm forks. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Goat_Herder on August 04, 2009, 09:08:20 AM Love this thread. You've done some awesome work and I really enjoyed seeing how everything comes together. But what's that thing in the background? :o
S2R waiting for parts to return from paint shop. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/powdercoat5.jpg) Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: pennyrobber on August 04, 2009, 09:43:38 AM But what's that thing in the background? :o Are you serious, that is some MH900 goodness. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on August 07, 2009, 04:15:28 PM Im really interested in doing this to my bike as I already have clip ons and dont want the speedymoto triple. what was involved in the swap? I looked into this briefly but gave up when I thought I saw that the sport classic had 53mm forks. Not sure. I measured the forks on my 06 SC. Same O.D. as 06 sr2. Spec says rake is same between the two. When I 1st did the swap i did only the top with stock s2r bottom. Somehow I could not get the forks to align. So i swapped out the bottom also. Installation went smooth. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on August 07, 2009, 06:20:23 PM Not sure. I measured the forks on my 06 SC. Same O.D. as 06 sr2. Spec says rake is same between the two. When I 1st did the swap i did only the top with stock s2r bottom. Somehow I could not get the forks to align. So i swapped out the bottom also. Installation went smooth. so you swapped top and bottom and that was it? Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: TAftonomos on August 07, 2009, 06:39:29 PM offset is different IIRC. Monster's are 30mm, SC is 33 I think. I looked into this when doing my front end swap as I was trying to find a more aggressive offset for the monster off another bike. Unless you fit a set of 749R triple or other aftermarket 27mm clamp, the monster has the most aggressive offset from ducati already.
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on August 07, 2009, 07:02:50 PM so you swapped top and bottom and that was it? That was it. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: hillbillypolack on August 08, 2009, 04:03:00 AM NIce job on having very ample room to do your build. It looks like you have a good handle on being organized and methodical.
I'm wondering also how the paint will hold up on the sprocket. Might have been good to have done a black anodize on it, as well as the swingarm. I did something similar to your paint touch up on the frame after I did my tail chop. After a year, the mismatch bothered me enough to pull the frame and have it powdercoated in its entirety. It might save you from wanting (or needing) to do that in a year if you take care of it now. Then again, you gotta get on it and ride too! ;D Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: needtorque on August 08, 2009, 06:53:24 AM That was it. This concerns me. If the offset is wider, than the axle is technically 3 mm too short. Now the forks will sqeeze enough to cover this but now you are talking about pinching the forks inward to compensate for the offset. Should'nt that technically make your forks bent, as in not straight. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: brad black on August 09, 2009, 04:52:07 AM This concerns me. If the offset is wider, than the axle is technically 3 mm too short. Now the forks will sqeeze enough to cover this but now you are talking about pinching the forks inward to compensate for the offset. Should'nt that technically make your forks bent, as in not straight. offset being front/rear, affecting trail. not distance between fork tubes. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on August 26, 2009, 06:42:10 PM I've been slacking on this project. [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink] [drink]
This is what has been done since my last post. Design/fabricate an electronics tray. Install thread stud for ground wire, holes for future tie wraps and vented holes for regulator. Will be powder coated black. This is mock up test. BTW: I have two extra prototypes. Wasn't much more expensive then just ordering one piece. IM me and [bow_down] if you want one. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/etray000.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/eTray00.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/etray1.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1557.jpg) Installed a vizi-tec SupaNova tail light with all the trimmings [roll] Don't ask how i got one~ (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/etray0.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/SupaNova.jpg) Installed some new donuts. Front and rear. I went with the BRIDGESTONE Battlax TB-016. I like the idea of a multi-compound design. So i thought i would give it a try. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1569.jpg) Installed the exhaust. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1580.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1517.jpg) I've done some work on the front end and also installed a bracket next to battery to hold the two coils. Will post pictures soon. Currently working on cleaning up the wires and an instrument pod. This is taking 10x longer then i had imagine. Good thing i have other bikes to ride. Do not under take a project of this magnitude if it is your only bike and beginning of riding season. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: dbran1949 on August 26, 2009, 07:24:00 PM Will be powder coated black. I suggest you leave the tray unpainted, or anodize if you must 1. It looks great as is 2. It will make a nice heat sink for the regulator (if you anodize sand the area under the regulator back to raw aluminum) BTW bike is looking great nice job [thumbsup] Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: kopfjäger on August 26, 2009, 07:46:33 PM Tray looks great, did a similar one on my bike, but flat. I powdercoated it black.
Where did you get that tail light? ;D Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: DucHead on August 27, 2009, 02:06:32 AM WOW, thanks to the newest pictures, I'm currently residing at "Morningwood Estates!" ;D [thumbsup]
BTW, I've had a pic of your exhaust for a pretty long time. I thought I found it by a Google search. Were you on the old board? Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: duc996 on August 27, 2009, 04:43:44 PM Project looking really good...i like the tray that you made as well,that serves as a good heat sink.Nice [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: darkduke on August 28, 2009, 07:40:39 AM damn guy, that's a nice looking project you got going there +1 on the inner tray thingy, cleans it all up really nice
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on August 31, 2009, 03:54:47 PM I suggest you leave the tray unpainted, or anodize if you must Thanks.1. It looks great as is 2. It will make a nice heat sink for the regulator (if you anodize sand the area under the regulator back to raw aluminum) BTW bike is looking great nice job [thumbsup] I don't believe in black anodized on metal parts that is exposed to UV light over long period of time. They all eventually turn that purplish tone color. Maybe not so much for this particular part as it is downwards facing away from direct sun light. Clear anodized maybe. That is right. I plan to mask out the portion were the reg sits from the paint. I also will use some thermal conductive pads between it and the tray. I have just the thing. It is a sticky water proof double-side material design for this application. WOW, thanks to the newest pictures, I'm currently residing at "Morningwood Estates!" ;D [thumbsup] Thanks. Nope. But I have posted on here before.BTW, I've had a pic of your exhaust for a pretty long time. I thought I found it by a Google search. Were you on the old board? Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on August 31, 2009, 03:58:53 PM This is the bracket that i designed to mount the coils on. Threaded studs for grounding wire.
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/coil-tray.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/coiltray2.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/coiltray3.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/coiltray4.jpg) Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: dbran1949 on August 31, 2009, 04:15:04 PM 1. Are you using a CAD system to layout the metal parts or just a hand drawing given to a fabricator?
2. Any progress on the breakout board? Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: NAKID on August 31, 2009, 05:10:35 PM That bracket looks real nice man!
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: ducrider45 on August 31, 2009, 05:41:49 PM Very nice. I need to clean up my wiring soon. Right now I have one coil mounted under the seat and the other is straped to the battery mount.
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on September 04, 2009, 04:58:29 AM 1. Are you using a CAD system to layout the metal parts or just a hand drawing given to a fabricator? 1. Yes. I have parametric design software that has a sheetmetal feature. Its folded and unfolded functions makes designing sheetmetal a snap. I then email the output and quick 2d drawing if need be to fabricator. Part shows up on front door in 5-7 days. I would cut it myself. But I don't have the proper tools nor do i really have the skills. Besides my time is better spent on other things i'm really good at.2. Any progress on the breakout board? 2. The schematic is captured and board is 90% routed. I added a last minute feature to the design which placed a hold on completion. Other projects also needed my attention at the time. You know how these things get. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: RB on September 04, 2009, 05:31:21 AM snip... care to post the link of this company you have had success with?I then email the output and quick 2d drawing if need be to fabricator. real nice job on your ride RB Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 16, 2010, 06:10:15 PM It has been awhile since i've updated this topic. Many many moons ago!!! :P To tell you the truth, I almost forgot about it myself. I've been busy with other($$$ paying) projects and personal matters.
Needless to say some work has been since last spring. And many [drink] have been consumed. CAD a new head light bracket. Never did like the stock one. Below is a 3D rendered view. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/Bracket_b.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/Bracket_a.jpg) Bracket installed on bike. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/Bracket_c.jpg) And also managed to finish designing the breakout board and did knock off ONE prototype! Here are some pictures of it. (Shown Top side) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1889.jpg) Note: Loads of goodies designed in this baby. Sure i could have bought a third party module. But my primary reason for making my own... because it is a hell'a FUN!!! It will also allow me to test out each functions to see which ones are viable. Maybe bring to market as independent products. To name a few of these functions... - Gear number simulation(1, N, 2-6) based on known RPM, Ground Speed and gear ratio. Simple floating point calculations done in firmware. - Active RFid. (Electronics will know if you're within 4-6ft of the bike). Thus locks/unlocks the electrical system. User has a fob on person. - RF remote unlock or start - Headlight power up delay during cranking of motor. Thus more current to motor starter. - Head light modulation(user define on/off) - SupaBrake modulation algorithm embedded. - Signal(blinker) cancellation(Time based and distance based). Meaning your cancellation function will not trigger off if you're stuck waiting to make a left on a red light. cancellation can be set to say 3 blocks max. Then turn blinker off. - 3 axis motion sensor. Security to sound horn if bike is moved. - MOSFET high side switches with independent over current protection. Meaning NO fuses nor mechanical relays! - All inputs are opto-coupled. Meaning smaller wires(>24AWG) can be used because of its low current needed to actuate. - All system information is broadcasted via a CAN bus I/F, I2C or simple UART for later expansion. Example only 4 wires are needed to interface front end of bike.(Power, Ground, Data, Clock). All information can be decoded locally. This will greatly reduce wires between main body of bike and front handle bars. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1892.jpg) Here it is installed in its waterproof ABS plastic case. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1945.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1941.jpg) (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1943.jpg) Here is how she looks today. Virtually no electrical wires showing! Next up is moving the oil cooler line to left side, cutting off the ugly stock keylock on the rear end of the frame and designing some idiot lights with a speedometer. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1949s.jpg) Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: beancounter on July 16, 2010, 06:29:06 PM I love it! Absolutely clutter free bike...no ugly wires [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Drunken Monkey on July 16, 2010, 09:28:43 PM Dammit, why couldn't you have made an extra prototype, then I wouldn't have had to use a motogadget ;D
Suuuper clean! I love it [thumbsup] Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ducatl on July 16, 2010, 10:01:22 PM Very nice [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: dbran1949 on July 17, 2010, 07:38:23 AM - All inputs are opto-coupled. Meaning smaller wires(>24AWG) can be used because of its low current needed to actuate. - All system information is broadcasted via a CAN bus I/F, I2C or simple UART for later expansion. Example only 4 wires are needed to interface front end of bike.(Power, Ground, Data, Clock). All information can be decoded locally. This will greatly reduce wires between main body of bike and front handle bars. First let me say your work is phenomenal as someone who started designing PCBs to replace ferrite bead core memory I really like what you have done [thumbsup] one comment - one question comment One of the downsides to low current operation is that even the tiniest bit of oxidation can cause contact closure detection failure. On my S4RS the starter button does not connect to a relay but to the ECU. I was having intermittent failure to start, push the button and nothing. When I looked at the schematic I realized that the started button was not connected to a relay. Pulled the handle bar switch apart, used a pink pearl on the contacts. After "careful" reassembly (what a PITA) and water proofing it has been working fine ever since. The oxidation was so slight I was only able to notice it because I had seen it before on numerous back-plane connectors. question CAN bus sounds like a great idea, won't you need a small microprocessor up at the handlebar to encode all the switches up there? As I said before - great work. As an owner of a FI bike I have often contemplated replacing the DP ECU with something that didn't cause raw fuel to drip out the end of the pipes when driving around town. Of course contemplation is easy Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Turf on July 17, 2010, 01:50:08 PM Damn, definitely going to have to keep an eye on this build
lots of nice subtle touches i dig Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 18, 2010, 09:20:31 AM I love it! Absolutely clutter free bike...no ugly wires [thumbsup] Very nice [thumbsup] Thanks all! I missed riding the ole girl.I took her to the local ice cream join last night. Couple of dirty looking, over weight, black t-shirt HD riders gave me the usual... "why did you remove all the plastic" routine. I told them i having the inside of the plastic washed. First let me say your work is phenomenal as someone who started designing PCBs to replace ferrite bead core memory I really like what you have done [thumbsup] Rock on! Thx.That is some cool ole skool sh*t there. Awesome [thumbsup]. If you don't mind, I'll send you the preliminary design for ver2 of this project. I could use the input from another EE who also have a passion for motorcycles? Dammit, why couldn't you have made an extra prototype, then I wouldn't have had to use a motogadget ;D Haha. Actually i did buy parts for 3 kits as promised, one was(is) allocated to you and other for Mark at MotoCreations for his "Orange" project. However, i just couldn't meet your target date. If i had finished this project sooner, i would have loved to forward you a sample. Time was a limiting factor and the fact that I kept putting it off. I had other Ducs to ride. So it was not a line down situation. Besides it's a v1.0. Like ANYTHING "v1.0" there are slight hick-ups??? I believe version2 is in order. The main reason is the CINCH ABS plastic housing i chose. It is made my same folks who makes the stock Ducati connectors on the ECU. They make good auto connectors, but their PCB housing is a piece of SH*T to say the least. And not to mention some errors in their documentation. Had major issues crimping/installing the wires into the box. I designed the PCB around their housing. I wanted a fast solution. My mistake. Should expect this much from a French company - Ha!Version2 i'll make my own housing and thus will allow a ~30% reduction in size. And I'll also be adding a GPS radio into the design. I want to extract ground speed and heading information. I believe with a good active antenna this is possible even in the most difficult of location for GPS signals. This will allow the elimination of the wheel sensor. Thus one less wire showing. Another cool factor. 8) So see... wouldn't you rather have v2 instead? ;D comment Very true. Especially with different contact materials or contacts that are open to ambient environment.One of the downsides to low current operation is that even the tiniest bit of oxidation can cause contact closure detection failure. On my S4RS the starter button does not connect to a relay but to the ECU. I was having intermittent failure to start, push the button and nothing. When I looked at the schematic I realized that the started button was not connected to a relay. Pulled the handle bar switch apart, used a pink pearl on the contacts. After "careful" reassembly (what a PITA) and water proofing it has been working fine ever since. The oxidation was so slight I was only able to notice it because I had seen it before on numerous back-plane connectors. I'll be using something similar to these. (See pic below). Ingress Protection = IP65. Tangshan contacts. More resistive to oxidation. Picture shown is Blue. They come in Red and Green and even Tri-colours. Was thinking about also using them as idiot lights? The buttons will double as idiot lights. Again less clutter up front. (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/77.jpg) CAN bus sounds like a great idea, won't you need a small microprocessor up at the handlebar to encode all the switches up there? Definitely! I was thinking sending 2each ~16AWG(mostly for headlight load) and a ~24AWG twisted pair for data comm. It will basically be a half-duplex I/O expander. Probably find an off the self unit if anything. I've seen some on eBay. What would be really really cool is just send the 2 power wires. Then put in a small RF transceiver locally to eliminate the twisted pair.... haha. But that maybe over kill!Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: dbran1949 on July 18, 2010, 10:02:37 AM That is some cool ole skool sh*t there. Awesome [thumbsup]. If you don't mind, I'll send you the preliminary design for ver2 of this project. I could use the input from another EE who also have a passion for motorcycles? (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/77.jpg) Definitely! I was thinking sending 2each ~16AWG(mostly for headlight load) and a ~24AWG twisted pair for data comm. It will basically be a half-duplex I/O expander. Probably find an off the self unit if anything. I've seen some on eBay. What would be really really cool is just send the 2 power wires. Then put in a small RF transceiver locally to eliminate the twisted pair.... haha. But that maybe over kill! Be happy to look at the design, shoot me a PM so we can exchange emails, although it's been a while since I have done any PCB work. Doing a lot of system architecture lately, presently working on the western interconnect synchrophasor program for the bulk electric system. I think RF is a little too risky especially with HV coils in the near vicinity, twisted pair is tried and true. I only have wireless in my house for visitors, For all my stuff it's all CAT 5e BTW those are some cool switches, I am in the process of helping a buddy rewire 1949 jeep. It is staying mostly stock except for one panel that will be removable in case someone wants to take it back to completely stock. Do you have a link to the source? Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: suzyj on July 18, 2010, 11:29:09 AM The main reason is the CINCH ABS plastic housing i chose. It is made my same folks who makes the stock Ducati connectors on the ECU. They make good auto connectors, but their PCB housing is a piece of SH*T to say the least. And not to mention some errors in their documentation. Had major issues crimping/installing the wires into the box. I designed the PCB around their housing. I wanted a fast solution. My mistake. Should expect this much from a French company - Ha! Oh cool. I've done a couple of half-arsed searches to try to find replacements for the ECU connectors, but turned up nothing. I'd stupidly assumed they were AMP connectors like most of the others on the bike. I really like what you've done, Ohmic. It looks really cool. Just a thought - by swapping from lead acid to life cells, there's a lot of space liberated in the battery holder - you could put plenty of electronics in there... Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: greenohawk69 on July 18, 2010, 11:38:16 AM Very cool and great work. Like bike porn. [laugh]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Drunken Monkey on July 18, 2010, 12:08:59 PM (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/77.jpg) Spooge. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 24, 2010, 05:44:35 AM Just a thought - by swapping from lead acid to life cells, there's a lot of space liberated in the battery holder - you could put plenty of electronics in there... Thanks. I may visit this if realistate becomes an issue.BTW those are some cool switches, I am in the process of helping a buddy rewire 1949 jeep. It is staying mostly stock except for one panel that will be removable in case someone wants to take it back to completely stock. Do you have a link to the source? Yes. These would be great for your buddy's Jeep. There are several companies that produce these pushbuttons. Bulgin is one and the other is Schurter. I have the Bulgin onhand and their quality is top notch. I know Mouser carries the Schurter versions. One thing is that they are on the larger size of bike application. Should work for me as i'm putting them on my top triple. Still on a lookout for smaller versions that will fit the handle bars.Here are the links: http://www.bulgin.co.uk/Products/Switches/Illuminated.html (http://www.bulgin.co.uk/Products/Switches/Illuminated.html) http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?Ntk=P_MarCom&Ntt=102748100 (http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?Ntk=P_MarCom&Ntt=102748100) Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Mojo S2R on July 24, 2010, 07:39:48 AM Don't know how I missed this thread. All I can say is just "Wow!" :o Beautiful bike. Love how even parts of the bike that most people won't see are so beautifully done. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Airborne on July 24, 2010, 12:38:55 PM What did you use to clean your engine? Whats your technique. I think I can eat off that thing.
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on July 24, 2010, 04:23:27 PM What did you use to clean your engine? Whats your technique. I think I can eat off that thing. Yeah... let's face it. Degreaser, soap, brush etc(normal way) can only go so far on a dirty motor.What I do is something i would NOT recommend. It can be dangerous. So please no posting telling me about the safety aspect of it and how people burn down their garage and sh*t. I know and I understand. So. If you are thinking about using my technique, please do so in a safe environment(well ventilated) and use common sense. Note: COMMON SENSE This is what i do. About once a year. On a cold motor, I use a small amount of gasoline. Very small amount! Preferably outside. Pour it into a small bowl. With a small paint brush go over all the nook and cranny you wish to have oil/grease dissolved. The gasoline won't damage the paint on the motor. It will dissolve the oil and grease on contact. Let the dirty gasoline drip back into the bowl. After you can go ahead and use your degreaser/soap to finish the motor/bike. I'm sure there are other "safer" chemicals on the market one could use to get their motor clean enough to eat off. Oh... and to dry your bike fast and easy without any streaks. Use a leaf blower on it. Blow it from top to bottom. Then wax her up. Done. I can wash/wax a motorcycle in under 15mins and one or two [drink] Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: dbran1949 on July 24, 2010, 05:20:37 PM Oh... and to dry your bike fast and easy without any streaks. Use a leaf blower on it. Blow it from top to bottom. Then wax her up. Done. Been using a leaf blower on my car and bike for years, also works great on golden retrievers Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: 1KDS on July 25, 2010, 04:15:40 PM I just keep staring at this pic, if I can make my bike look like this (clean) with one of your boards, sign me up!
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1949s.jpg) Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: DucHead on July 25, 2010, 05:41:13 PM I just keep staring at this pic, if I can make my bike look like this (clean) with one of your boards, sign me up! +1 [thumbsup] [popcorn] Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Javamoose on July 25, 2010, 10:18:02 PM (http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt251/vizi-tec/2006%20Monster%20Project/DSCF1949s.jpg) Yeah, amazing...one of, if not THE best looking Monsters I've ever seen. [thumbsup] Makes me want to push mine off a cliff into the ocean, as it'll never look near that good... Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: kyle on May 15, 2012, 02:13:19 AM Your thread is very relevant to my interests! :)
Simply amazing work with that breakout box! Just needs to be smaller now :D Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: Ohmic on May 15, 2012, 01:55:33 PM Funny you should mention. I do have ver2 of this box made. It is 45% smaller and thinner. Cleaned up the wiring even more.
I'll update this thread when time permits. Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: MadDaddy on May 15, 2012, 05:17:37 PM can't wait to see ver2! your bike looks great!
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: greenohawk69 on May 15, 2012, 07:08:31 PM Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: ajw85 on May 17, 2012, 11:23:00 AM Did you ever mount your gauges? I'm interested to see that with the SC triple you used.
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: JohnEE on May 20, 2012, 06:11:52 AM [bow_down] Amazing work on that breakout box. I hope one day i can gather the skills/experience to try it(EE myself). You have truly made the monster naked! [clap]
Title: Re: Another Monster Project -- on going status <picture heavy> Post by: monsta on May 23, 2012, 04:22:07 AM I've been keeping an eye on this thread... love ya work!
I'm looking at getting the motogadget m-unit. Its tried and tested? but yours has a lot of features that would be really nice. How far off are you to having a saleable item? Maybe you'd like to see it on the monsta? ( http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=42314.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=42314.0) ) |