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Title: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: DRKWNG on May 09, 2008, 06:47:05 AM
Has anyone made an attempt to contact any of the old sponsors to see if they would be interested in leaving VS and coming over here?


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: MotoCreations on May 09, 2008, 09:09:21 AM
I think you will see some of the good sponsors come -- but only once a stable platform is established and things have quieted down some.  It will also be depend upon the quality of posts here.

A lot of the advertisers are pi**ed in the industry in regard to VS.  Nothing like getting your ad rate hiked to silliness just to share a page with other blinking graphics.  DML was a prime example of this now -- higher advertising rate, less exposures and still give the DML member discount.  Most of the banner ads on the site were from others who had never been on the site, know of the site, visited the site, and disregarded the "member discount" that the long-term advertisers created for paying members.  My favorite ads are the "home and garden" ones!

Hopefully the DMF puts together a reasonable approach in how to make banner / advertising and sponsorship work.  And primarily use companies that actually PARTICIPATE within the DMF itself and are visible within the Ducati community itself.

I was looking at advertising on the DML for my summer launch of products.  After talking with VS, I almost deleted my profile.  Then again, they blocked my IP days after that for my home / shop and a friends shop where I accessed the DML.  Go figure...



Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: stopintime on May 09, 2008, 04:09:48 PM
The more I hear about VS BS the more convinced I am that the good ones will be here SOON. I miss them :'(


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: Dave R on May 09, 2008, 09:47:37 PM
Where do we sign up  :D 


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: mitt on May 10, 2008, 10:34:41 AM
Welcome Dave & Mark!

Lots of details & bugs to work out still, so be patient.

mitt


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: RichD on May 10, 2008, 11:34:42 AM
Where do we sign up  :D 

Welcome Dave!
I was a longtime member at .ms and appreciate your input there.
I'd just signed up at "the other Monster board"
...and it imploded.
Good to see you didn't get trapped in the rubble when it did!



Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: DarkStaR on May 10, 2008, 01:16:53 PM
I hope Chris from http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/ makes the move. 


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: Duck-Stew on May 10, 2008, 01:28:59 PM
I hope Chris from http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/ makes the move. 

He's already here!  Username 'chris'.


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: Dave R on May 11, 2008, 09:52:07 PM
Welcome Dave & Mark!

Lots of details & bugs to work out still, so be patient.

mitt

Ok, just keep us posted and please give us a shout if we can be of any help !
Dave R
Ducati Seattle


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: Augustus on May 12, 2008, 05:21:37 PM
I guess it would be mean to punish the sponsors that continue to support the other board.  I've ordered a lot of stuff from quite a few sponsors and thought about leaning on them but then had second thoughts because they were great.  I just hope they come over and give us some support.


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: lawbreaker on May 13, 2008, 06:30:17 AM
Any word on DESMOWORLD?


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: MotoCreations on May 13, 2008, 10:20:50 AM
I guess it would be mean to punish the sponsors that continue to support the other board. 

Some of them have contracts for quarterly or yearly rates.  Thus cancelling isn't an option.

My only rules for sponsors is this -- are they "active" on the board itself?  Do they help others even if they don't necessarily generate revenue due to the post itself?  Look at the best in the industry -- Dave R / Seattle, Chris / CA-CycleWorks, etc.  Those are the kind of sponsors you want because they are enthusiasts first as well as passionate about Ducati's and motorcycles in general.  I wish more sponsors would emulate their behaviour!


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: BellissiMoto on May 13, 2008, 11:03:03 AM
Im sure I will be spending some quality time here,

it is truly hard for me to believe the BS that VS created, but it warms my heart to know that they lost out bigtime $$$wise, I mean cmon, that forum is less than worthless now and they must have paid some good money for it!!!

Anyways, I will gladly help out the members with discounts, and advice/help whenever possible... plus stay tuned for our project bike pics to start showing up...


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: ducpainter on May 13, 2008, 05:34:21 PM
Im sure I will be spending some quality time here,

it is truly hard for me to believe the BS that VS created, but it warms my heart to know that they lost out bigtime $$$wise, I mean cmon, that forum is less than worthless now and they must have paid some good money for it!!!

Anyways, I will gladly help out the members with discounts, and advice/help whenever possible... plus stay tuned for our project bike pics to start showing up...
I see you sell RS Taichi...great stuff...I own a set.

How about fixing the links in your site so I can see prices?


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: BellissiMoto on May 13, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
I see you sell RS Taichi...great stuff...I own a set.

How about fixing the links in your site so I can see prices?

Hell yes it is!!!

I have only been working on this site for about 2.5 weeks now, so trust me, I know that I have a lot of work ahead of me... (I still barely know what I am doing with the sitebuilding software...)

anyways,

I posted up a quick price list here ; http://www.1098-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10814

along with some grand opening specials.

Enjoy!!


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: desmoworks on May 18, 2008, 12:14:43 PM
I think you will see some of the good sponsors come -- but only once a stable platform is established and things have quieted down some.  It will also be depend upon the quality of posts here.

A lot of the advertisers are pi**ed in the industry in regard to VS.  Nothing like getting your ad rate hiked to silliness just to share a page with other blinking graphics.  DML was a prime example of this now -- higher advertising rate, less exposures and still give the DML member discount.  Most of the banner ads on the site were from others who had never been on the site, know of the site, visited the site, and disregarded the "member discount" that the long-term advertisers created for paying members.  My favorite ads are the "home and garden" ones!

Hopefully the DMF puts together a reasonable approach in how to make banner / advertising and sponsorship work.  And primarily use companies that actually PARTICIPATE within the DMF itself and are visible within the Ducati community itself.

I was looking at advertising on the DML for my summer launch of products.  After talking with VS, I almost deleted my profile.  Then again, they blocked my IP days after that for my home / shop and a friends shop where I accessed the DML.  Go figure...



The price hike is definitely hard to swallow (among other things) in the switch to VS. I was already ready for it though as I worked out a package deal with them before the switch of ducati.ms

To turn this from long to short, I am having to pay about $2400/year more for the two sites than before. As well they just bought a Triumph forum I sponsor so they will do the same there, but I'm not going to continue with that.

My site traffic vs sales from those two sources have not increased - and I've monitored it every day. So I guess the decision becomes - is it better for the bottom line to sponsor or not? Before I didn't look at the cost vs profit, I was just happy to sponsor forums I liked.

Let me know what you are offering vendors here, I'd be happy to continue sponsorship here.


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: ducpainter on May 18, 2008, 03:11:09 PM
The price hike is definitely hard to swallow (among other things) in the switch to VS. I was already ready for it though as I worked out a package deal with them before the switch of ducati.ms

To turn this from long to short, I am having to pay about $2400/year more for the two sites than before. As well they just bought a Triumph forum I sponsor so they will do the same there, but I'm not going to continue with that.

My site traffic vs sales from those two sources have not increased - and I've monitored it every day. So I guess the decision becomes - is it better for the bottom line to sponsor or not? Before I didn't look at the cost vs profit, I was just happy to sponsor forums I liked.

Let me know what you are offering vendors here, I'd be happy to continue sponsorship here.
We certainly will Anthony.

We're very close to having a plan worked out.


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: Scottish on May 18, 2008, 06:37:08 PM
What about Chris with Motored-Sports? I speak with him quite a bit, I think he's interested in sponsoring the board. He definitely runs the kind of business that I'd want supporting the DMF. He's a small business owner that works his a$$ off to get whatever a guy needs(even if he doesn't have it in stock). Personally I know a lot of the guys on here have extra descretionary income, I don't. I can't afford to buy a lot of my parts new from the dealer. Chris is a lifesaver in that regard, he buys and stock piles parts for guys like me to keep their moto on the road(or in my case completely rebuild them). I don't know how much he's making but from the conversations and dealings I've had with him(I firmly believe he's doing this out of love and passion for Monsters), because I know the price he gave me my stuff for couldn't have cleared a lot of profit. Personally I know I sound like a infomercial right now, but I like to support people who do good business. I feel it's important to let people know when a good job is done, not just pregnant dog when it isn't. That is all, I know most were just dropping a quick line about who that'd like to see contacted and brought over, but he's helped me a lot, and I'd recomend him to anyone.  [thumbsup]



Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: MotoCreations on May 18, 2008, 09:05:43 PM
What about Chris with Motored-Sports?

I think Chris / CA-CycleWorks is probably the most standup guy in the industry.  I first started dealing with him as a customer in 1999 when I first walked into his garage at the house and ordered some FCR's. (I'm still kicking myself for not buying his '92 Black 900SS project then!)  I've recommended Ducatista to him ever since -- even to this day in fact. (I even just ordered from him myself!) Never heard of one complaint in almost nine years.  Hopefully he has success in getting his new fuel tanks to production here to expand his parts lineup even more.

Hopefully a few lessons from the DML were learned.  To build a good forum, you need regular posts by folks who contribute to the community.  You need a stable platform that will grow without daily/weekly hiccups or downtime as what had happened there over the past three years.  Servers and bandwidth costs money.  Advertising by advertisers who are also involved in the industry and the forum is definitely a "win-win" situation to make this place grow for years.


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: Scottish on May 19, 2008, 10:05:24 AM
 Is that the same Chris? I've read about the CA/ Cyleworks a lot but I didn't know if it was the same guy? I'm not sure it is, but Chris S is from CA so he may be the same, I'll have to ask him. If so I'm glad others have had as positive impression as I have!!!  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: chris on May 20, 2008, 01:39:50 AM
Is that the same Chris? I've read about the CA/ Cyleworks a lot but I didn't know if it was the same guy? I'm not sure it is, but Chris S is from CA so he may be the same, I'll have to ask him. If so I'm glad others have had as positive impression as I have!!!  [thumbsup]

Nah, not the same chris. I'm the one from ca-cycleworks. chris K... :)

Mods/Admin:
Yes, please bug me when y'all get the plan fingered out.

I guess it would be mean to punish the sponsors that continue to support the other board.

Yes, that would be mean. And someone has already bullied me about it -- pissed me off enough that I had to actually think about it and consider if I should support the new DMF.

Look, I know you guys are proud and feel entitled, but PLEASE remember that when you yell at us on the other side of the counter, our feelings get hurt, too. We're very busy, so meanies will be overlooked so that we can take care of the next person who appreciates our efforts and keeps manners. (not talking down to us like we're children or stupid)

Thanks -- and I'm headed back into my cave now... I need to get caught up with life. My own personal computer was in misery for a while, but I've found a configuration that's reliable so I can just sit and work. ... I really like kubuntu (http://kubuntu.org/), but to get a stable version, it's better to install ubuntu (http://ubuntu.com/) first and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.

:) Chris


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: ducpainter on May 20, 2008, 04:34:36 AM
Nah, not the same chris. I'm the one from ca-cycleworks. chris K... :)

Mods/Admin:
Yes, please bug me when y'all get the plan fingered out.

Yes, that would be mean. And someone has already bullied me about it -- pissed me off enough that I had to actually think about it and consider if I should support the new DMF.

Look, I know you guys are proud and feel entitled, but PLEASE remember that when you yell at us on the other side of the counter, our feelings get hurt, too. We're very busy, so meanies will be overlooked so that we can take care of the next person who appreciates our efforts and keeps manners. (not talking down to us like we're children or stupid)

Thanks -- and I'm headed back into my cave now... I need to get caught up with life. My own personal computer was in misery for a while, but I've found a configuration that's reliable so I can just sit and work. ... I really like kubuntu (http://kubuntu.org/), but to get a stable version, it's better to install ubuntu (http://ubuntu.com/) first and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.

:) Chris
Chris,

Please don't mistake the emotions of some of the members for those of the Flounders.

When we have a plan you will know.

Nate


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: chris on May 21, 2008, 03:32:47 PM
Thanks Nate.  :)


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: BozcoRob on May 27, 2008, 05:57:48 PM
If the sponsor "package" is set up like the rest of this place, I am sure we will see our old friends/sources
on these pages. [thumbsup] [thumbsup]




Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: moto on May 28, 2008, 09:31:22 AM
Let us know when you have figured out a sponsor package.
We'll be happy to contribute.

-M


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: ducpainter on May 28, 2008, 09:34:32 AM
Thanks Martin.

We certainly will.


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: LYD on May 30, 2008, 07:45:52 AM
I have delt with both Chris's (chris k. & chris s.)and have nothing bad to say about either!!  Very respectful people and will continue to deal with them!!

Thanks guys!  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: speedy on May 30, 2008, 02:18:12 PM
Wow, I just found out about this new space!  I would love to be a sponsor or help out however speedymoto can!!

Christian,
www.speedymoto.com


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: ducpainter on May 30, 2008, 04:25:14 PM
Wow, I just found out about this new space!  I would love to be a sponsor or help out however speedymoto can!!

Christian,
www.speedymoto.com
You are now officially on the list.   ;D


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: stopintime on May 30, 2008, 11:38:38 PM
Could it be an idea to have a "ask the sponsors" board/thread?

I'm sure they are asked the same questions repeatedly. If they so choose they can answer them, even make them, here for all to see and search.


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: DRKWNG on May 31, 2008, 09:14:13 AM
To turn this from long to short, I am having to pay about $2400/year more for the two sites than before. As well they just bought a Triumph forum I sponsor so they will do the same there, but I'm not going to continue with that.

Anthony, what Triumph forum did VS purchase?  I am also on 675.net and was wondering if it might be that one.  Sure hope not...


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: DomDucati on July 06, 2008, 07:40:20 PM
I've bought stuff from Anthony at Desmoworks, Chris S., and after this weekend, Chris K. at ca-cycleworks and Motowheels.  All have gone above and beyond to make the experiences good ones.  Now I patiently await arrival of some nice accessories!


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: gearitalia on July 28, 2008, 10:39:27 PM
Some of them have contracts for quarterly or yearly rates.  Thus cancelling isn't an option.

My only rules for sponsors is this -- are they "active" on the board itself?  Do they help others even if they don't necessarily generate revenue due to the post itself?  Look at the best in the industry -- Dave R / Seattle, Chris / CA-CycleWorks, etc.  Those are the kind of sponsors you want because they are enthusiasts first as well as passionate about Ducati's and motorcycles in general.  I wish more sponsors would emulate their behaviour!

I no longer sponsor or support DML with free shipping.  All DMF members will receive free shipping on all Arrow exhausts.

Best Regards,

Pete Ciccarone
www.Gearitalia.com
Las Vegas NV


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: DRKWNG on July 28, 2008, 11:20:49 PM
 [beer]


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: howie on August 12, 2008, 04:44:14 AM
I no longer sponsor or support DML with free shipping.  All DMF members will receive free shipping on all Arrow exhausts.

Best Regards,

Pete Ciccarone
www.Gearitalia.com
Las Vegas NV

Thank you  [beer]


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: chris on August 13, 2008, 01:10:40 PM
Nah, not the same chris. I'm the one from ca-cycleworks. chris K... :)

Mods/Admin:
Yes, please bug me when y'all get the plan fingered out.

I was bugged ... and paid some $, but I guess there's room for only so many sponsors on here. ???

Ah well. Back into my cave again. We're close to rolling out some new technology for the site...

:) Chris


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: ducpainter on August 13, 2008, 03:33:34 PM
I was bugged ... and paid some $, but I guess there's room for only so many sponsors on here. ???

Ah well. Back into my cave again. We're close to rolling out some new technology for the site...

:) Chris
Chris....

that's not the case...

if we've messed up we apologize.

We need to find Statler....

paging Statler....Statler to the DMF courtesy phone.

Quote
I'll go pull the records.  I'm teaching today and only have cell phone.
  can someone let him know I'll check it and make sure he gets more
 than the time he's paid for.


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: Statler on August 15, 2008, 11:07:30 AM
I missed the paypal notice.  Ca-Cycleworks paid us in early July and should have their own forum for posting cool stuff and a banner ad in the top corner etc.etc.

My screwup.

I apologize in advance for times when this as my hobby takes a back seat to my job.  It will never negatively effect Sponsors financially...in fact, I think most often once things are up and running for a Sponsor, my negligence will mean some free time because I'm not great about pesting for funds.

The statement that there's only room for so many Sponsors on the board is correct in one respect though.....since we're not doing this for the big money, you won't see non-Duc related banner ads.  The major sponsors are folks we have dealt with and buy from ourselves.

It so happens that Ca-Cylceworks is on that short list, and the $ paid in July will cover more than the amount of time it normally would.

Again, sorry for my error.

Chris


Title: Re: Any of the old sponsors coming?
Post by: Chris@CycleCat on August 06, 2011, 04:43:01 AM
Cycle Cat has a long history with the DML and now wants to sponsor the DMF. As an avid contributing member of the community I am looking forward to working with the DMF and it's members. Please get me the rates and payment info. Thanks.



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